Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > Reloading

Reloading All Reloading Topics Go Here


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-03-2013, 11:59 PM
iouri iouri is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 453
Liked 669 Times in 360 Posts
Default M1 Garand brass catcher

Took my Garand to indoor range last week and out of 2 boxes was able to recover only 5 cases It launches them way out of reach... So my question is: can anyone recommend a brass catcher for Garand ? Anyone have experience with E&L model ?
Appreciate any hints
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-04-2013, 12:14 AM
Zjnovak's Avatar
Zjnovak Zjnovak is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Milwaukee WI
Posts: 321
Likes: 9
Liked 46 Times in 36 Posts
Default

Have someone stand behind you and see where they go. I've never tried one, because I'd rather not have a box on the side of the gun. I guess I've never really lost much 30-06 brass either.

Just my $.02
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-04-2013, 10:50 AM
scooter123 scooter123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 6,956
Likes: 180
Liked 4,374 Times in 2,140 Posts
Default

Something else you can do is simply move BACK in the shooting booth. After seeing the cost of new unprimed brass at places like Gander Mountain I started taking a couple of steps back in the booths at indoor ranges. My brass recovery rate with my semi auto pistols went from a rather miserable 60% to nearly 100%.

As for your rifle shooting, if you are shooting off a bench rest there isn't any harm or risk to placing your sandbag at the rear of the shooting bench instead of the front. I expect that if you do that you'll find almost all of your brass lands behind the firing line where you are permitted to pick it up.

BTW, last weekend a fellow shooting with his father told me I didn't have to worry about picking up my brass that was thrown behind them, he'd just sweep it downrange when they finished shooting. When I told him that Gander Mountain wanted 35 cents per casing and that I reloaded he started picking up my brass for me and handing it too me when I finished a magazine. You might find it helpful to spend a moment or two explaining to your range neighbors that you reload and would appreciate them leaving your brass in place so you can recover every casing. I also prefer to get booths near the right side of the range so that I don't have to chase too many lanes over.

Last edited by scooter123; 05-04-2013 at 11:05 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-04-2013, 12:08 PM
TAROMAN's Avatar
TAROMAN TAROMAN is offline
US Veteran
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: The wet side of Oregon
Posts: 6,391
Likes: 9,451
Liked 8,035 Times in 2,456 Posts
Default

You don't mention what load you're using.
Its possible to control ejection to a certain degree by adjusting your loads.
I load for my M1 to a moderate level (with Varget) to where the cases land in a reasonably small area at 2:00 o'clock about 6 feet in front. Easier on the rifle and me.
If you're shooting factory loads, a Schuster adjustable gas plug can be dialed in to give the same effect.
Either of these would be easier and simpler than a brass catcher.
__________________
-jwk-
US Army '72-'95
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-04-2013, 12:25 PM
Culina's Avatar
Culina Culina is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,509
Likes: 442
Liked 1,309 Times in 477 Posts
Default

if your rifle is functioning properly, 7 out of the 8 will end up somewhere in front of you, depending how high you are off the ground, they can be from 5-10' in front of you between 12-4 O'clock, the last shot will be off to your right at 8-9' O'clock if you know where to look for them, it makes them easier to find.

Last edited by Culina; 05-04-2013 at 12:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-04-2013, 02:32 PM
mikld's Avatar
mikld mikld is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: May 2012
Location: S. Orygun
Posts: 2,495
Likes: 2,046
Liked 1,903 Times in 1,018 Posts
Default

Wow, losing 35, 30-06 cases would be pretty traumatic for me! When I shot a semi-auto handgun indoors, I would position myself close to the right partition/wall between stalls so the brass would hit the wall and fall down behind the firing line...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-04-2013, 04:07 PM
scha scha is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 899
Likes: 22
Liked 320 Times in 135 Posts
Default

I have a similar "box" style brass catcher for my Ruger Mini 14. It catches the brass just fine, but it does rub on the finish of the receiver and left a mark on the bluing. The Mini 14 really throws brass. Without the catcher it goes out 20+ feet. I only shoot at an outdoor range, but if I use an end lane, the brass goes way into the bushes and is very difficult to find.

Hope this helps.

Steve
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-04-2013, 06:07 PM
iouri iouri is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 453
Liked 669 Times in 360 Posts
Default

Taroman, I was shooting CMP (Greek surplus) ammo, so couldn't control the charge Kurac, I think mine functions properly - it launches brass at about 1 o'clock and about 10 ft forward, so there's no way to recover it on indoor range. Thanks everyone for the input, I guess as mikld pointed out I can position myself as close to divider as possible hoping brass will hit it first, so won't go far. Adjustable plug seems like a good solution.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-04-2013, 06:58 PM
brucev brucev is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The Peach State! GA!!!
Posts: 5,983
Likes: 14,731
Liked 6,389 Times in 2,377 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by iouri View Post
Took my Garand to indoor range last week and out of 2 boxes was able to recover only 5 cases It launches them way out of reach... So my question is: can anyone recommend a brass catcher for Garand ? Anyone have experience with E&L model ?
Appreciate any hints
The M-1 Garand is designed so that the hump on the operating rod will strike the empty casing and knock it forward somewhere between 1-3 O'clock in a clockface arch. The final round will go out at 4-5 O'clock since the rod will lock back to allow the clip to eject.

If you are firing from a bench place a cardboard box in that area and you will be able to recover the vast majority of your casings. If firing outdoors on a firing line, you can use a blanket supported with a couples of poles to stop the brass from flying off into the grass, etc.
__________________
<><
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-04-2013, 07:15 PM
2152hq 2152hq is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 8,068
Likes: 1,743
Liked 10,018 Times in 3,636 Posts
Default

I put one of the Schuster adj gas plugs in my M1 and it works great. The main reason I wanted it was to be able to reduce the recoil energy of the op-rod, slow things down so to speak.
You can adjust it, simply done w/an allen wrench so the ejected cases fall a mere couple of feet out at 2 & 3 o'clock.


Op-rods are expensive, chasing brass is no fun. Not all 'milsurp' and nothing much packaged commercial 30-06 is loaded especially for Garands. This way you can use most anything w/o damaging the rifle plus have the brass in a small area for you when done shooting.

Someday I'll reload for it,,maybe.
I'm still shooting up WW2 corrosive primed stuff and some Korean mfg 30-06. Some of the K is corrosive,,some not.
The M1 gets cleaned as if it all is anyway. It's apart right now on the bench from Thursday shoot and cleaning yet.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-04-2013, 07:15 PM
jepp2 jepp2 is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Rocky Mtns, CO
Posts: 986
Likes: 19
Liked 216 Times in 143 Posts
Default

This link works really well for my AR's.


Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-04-2013, 08:12 PM
scooter123 scooter123 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 6,956
Likes: 180
Liked 4,374 Times in 2,140 Posts
Default

Have you checked to see if that Greek ammo is Boxer primed. Because if it's Berdan primed losing the casings downrange isn't much of a loss at all.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-04-2013, 08:22 PM
MichiganScott MichiganScott is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: God's Country
Posts: 4,711
Likes: 1,235
Liked 3,535 Times in 1,770 Posts
Default

Brucev is correct about ejection patterns on an M1.

The simple answer is to single load your M1 and all cases will be ejected to the right rear. Pick them up and go home.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-04-2013, 09:23 PM
iouri iouri is offline
Member
M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher M1 Garand brass catcher  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 453
Liked 669 Times in 360 Posts
Default

Scooter, it's boxer primed otherwise I wouldn't worry about it
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-04-2013, 11:04 PM
brick brick is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 426
Likes: 1
Liked 243 Times in 94 Posts
Default

I shoot Greek surplus and my reloads and my brass lands in a 180 degree pattern from straight ahead to directly behind me. I loose brass when I shoot.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Brass Catcher JessicaB Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 16 02-17-2014 07:14 PM
TBB Brass Catcher? Dirt Dart Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 0 05-19-2013 05:39 PM
The UTG brass catcher! Houdini1953 Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles 8 08-16-2012 11:40 AM
Brass catcher for M&P 15-22? Blade37db Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 13 02-23-2012 08:11 AM
Brass Catcher cAlvis Smith & Wesson Semi-Auto Pistols 7 02-23-2009 12:38 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:12 AM.


© 2000-2025 smith-wessonforum.com All rights reserved worldwide.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)