In this ammo/reloading supply shortage, I had a hard time acquiring the recommended bullets that Hogdon lists for the .327 Fed Mag. using Clays. I could get Hornady 85 grn XTP and 32 H&R 100 FP copper plated pills however. What would the starting load of Clays be for these 2 bullets if that was all you had? Please let me know what you suggest, so I may safely feed my S&W Model 632-2.

I use HS6 for my 327 and 32H&R it is cheap and I have not had any problems finding it

See this thread.

I do not recommend Clays for the 327 Federal, it is to fast a powder. I would not use the 85 gr XTP at all with that powder. There is a reason it is not a tested powder for that round.

If you want to try you can use the Hodgdon data for the 115 gr lead bullet with your 100 gr plated, but that is up to you, I am not saying to do so,

Model 632-1 extraction problem

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If you try to buy Hogdon HS 6 online you'll find it is all back ordered. Here in The People's Republic of New York State any thing gun related is either sold out or illegal.

If those were all I had I would use starting loads from 32 H&R. With Clays I would not exceed 32 H&R loads as it is too fast for the 327 Fed IMO.

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You might take a look at this site...............

Reloading .327 Federal Magnum

Hornady's new handbook had NO loads for 327 Federal Mag.
For the 32 H & R mag and 85 gr.XTP NO loads listed for Clays.
Lyman's handbook listed 327 F. mag but No loads for Clays.

Don't know why but Clays may not be suitable for 327 Fed. Mag. Neither Horn. nor Lyman have developed loads using it . See if the Clays manufacturer has data for it.

Gary

Followed your advice. Scrounged up some Tite Group loaded the .327 Fed. Mag cases with 3.6 grns of it (boy that was lost in those long cases) and it shot low in comparison to factory ammo., however the S&W mod 632-2 has adjustable sights, so I'm good to go. I found rather than the normal sharp bark of the .327 Fed. Mag., it was more like the "pop" of a .38. Any way, there was no extraction problems and the primers looked normal after firing. Thanks again for that info, I wish there was more loading data for that .327 Fed. Mag. though, rather than having to experiment.

Just got my hands on some .32 S & W Long cases and Hornady 90gr.SWC to load for my 632 revolver. Loaded up with Trail Boss. Works great! Going to try this load in a couple of Single-Six's in .32 Mag. and Blackhawk in .327 Mag. This load is cheap to shoot.

There is lots of load data out there for 327 Federal Mag and just for the record I did not recommend Tite Group. Never, no how, no way, would I recommend it for anything.

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I agree with rule3 I would not use tightgroup there is to little volume of powder. A triple charge would be possible not counting the fact that the powder may not ignite by being to far away from the primer.

Well beggars can't be choosy and in this era of diminished gun related products I went with it. I figured because there was more reloading info with Tite Group it would be better than Clays. So what's the consensus on the best powder for .327 Fed Mag.?

You must not have looked at the #6 post info...............

Lots of powders to choose from.

per post #15;
NY city !! ......................sorry about that, I feel for you. Good luck.

Depends on if you are shooting lead or FMJ. There is no such thing as a "best" powder for anything. It depends on bullet weight, lead or FMJ.

If the proper powder is not available then IMHO it is prudent to just not load for it.

For FMJ like XTP's and Gold Dots the slower powders are the better. H110/W 296. 2400, and Power Pistol. I actually like Power Pistol the best. Lymans Cast has a lot of data for lead bullets Speer give data for their bullets.

What is difficult is, finding the 115 Speer Bullet which is near impossible. I use the Hornady XTP as the next best thing and they are less expensive, or they were.

The MD Smith pages have a lot of data and I trust most of them.

Reloading .327 Federal Magnum

Just because a powder is listed does not mean it is a good choice. Yes it will work but you better be damn careful with the fast powders if you use them. It is along deep skinny case and 3 grains or so is hard to see in there.

http://www.speer-bullets.com/pdf/327...8_DataFile.pdf

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I checked Post no. 6 and M.D. Smith has Titegroup listed. My problem here in NY state is trying to find anything gun related. If you do find something, the prices are usually prohibitive. I went to a gun show in Saratoga where a box of 50 .22LR was selling for $16. Bricks were going for close to $100 if you could find them.

Carl,

It is not just NY State (but I know you all have been hit with the worst Laws and Safe act nonsense.)

Components of any kind are no where to be found any where. Powder, primers etc. It's getting better at least guns are showing up down here but still no reloading stuff. There is still no loaded ammunition to speak of here in Florida.

If all you have is Clays or Titegroup my suggestion would be to weigh every single charge on a quality scale and load them single stage. Keep you busy and out of trouble

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Thanks Rule. I just got back from my LGS and he just received Unique and primers. Problem is he will only sell one box/container per customer. So now I will load 100 rounds with Unique using the M.D.Smith data. Thanks again for all your advice fellas.

Are you loading the 100gr bullets as MD Smith has no data for Unique and the 85 gr XTP?? I searched all my papers and can not find any data using Unique. I would only load a few to try first , not 100!

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I noticed that Unique was cut off before the 85 JHP bullets but was used last with the 83-85gr LEAD bullet.

It may be too fast for heavier jacket bullets.......... I did notice that Power Pistol was the fastest Alliant power with the Speer data. Probably for a good reason.............since 2400 and 296 is used.

For the life of me I don't know why people keep using fast burning powders designed for 45acp and 38 Special and use them in magnum revolvers. For very light powder puff loads they are OK but to try and get magnum performance it's futile and dangerous.

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Not directed to anyone in this thread but they do so because the load data may have used and tested such powders, but they do not want to fully understand the difference in powders. In other words they look for a charge and that is it.
They do not do any "homework" or research on pressure and burn rates. Sorry, sad but true.

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Therefor I was only going to load the 100 grn bullets. To be sure I was only going to test a few at the lowest charge.

You can probably use the 32 HR Magnum data for 85 grain Bullet and Unique and extrapolate" from there. I do not know what a "Speed" bullet is. But it is a 85 gr FMJ
Kinda like a 38 load in a 357 mag case.

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...21&bulletid=22


Pistols and Revolvers

32 H&R Magnum

• 85 gr Speed JHP

Minimum OAL
(inches)

Bbl Length

Primer

Powder

Charge Weight
(grains)

Velocity
(fps)

5.5 CCI 500 Unique 4.7 1,240

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I was surprised that Alliant did not have data for their new powder that they are pushing...................

Power Pistil !!

but there is Blue Dot data...........

I forgot to mention that my LGS had offered me magnum pistol primers. I declined and thought it would be advisable to stick with small pistol primers for the .327 Fed. Mag.?

I use Power Pistol almost exclusively in the 327 Federal. When I first got the gun I tried all kinds of loads, powders and bullets. I like the PP the best.

When Speer first came out with the load data they used a small rifle primer as it was supposed to withstand the high pressure better. My load manuals just have a small pistol except for H110.

With PP I just use regular small pistol and got the 85 grain XTP to over 1300 fps out of the 2" 632 Pro.

If you can find the Federal American Eagle 100 JSP loaded ammo, buy a box. That load screams!

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