Best load date for compensated / non-comp side arms
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What type and weight bullet will you be loading ?
Bkreutz
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While you could find a bunch of loads that would "work" in both, that load would be a compromise and not "work well" in either. The gas requirement to get a compensator to work will not be a good fit in a non compensated gun. You can use a load that is good for the 669, and it will probably work in your Glock but the compensator wouldn't be doing anything except acting as a weight on the end of your barrel.
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Handgun compensators function optimally with gas volume, as a rule this is provided optimally by slow powders; HS-6, CFE pistol, TrueBlue, some of the Vhitavuori powders and a few others.
Here's a link to Brian Enos Forum- reloading. The site is frequented by compensated handgun shooters.
9mm/38 Caliber - Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!
Here's a link to Brian Enos Forum- reloading. The site is frequented by compensated handgun shooters.
9mm/38 Caliber - Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!
Thanks for the help guys I have my chose of bullet weights right now I am using e-xtreme 147 rn I picked up some 115 from Remington and some 124 from e-xtreme as well. I use the Glock for USPSA open class and 669 for carry. I have found that about 1100-1150 gets the glock to cycle with comp but my brass is just coming out of gun. I have hs-6 / hp-38 and titegroup powders.
I was using titegroup with 147gn and dropping 3.2 grain to meet minimum power factor low recoil before putting compensator on now that load does not cycle my glock after I put the compensator on.
goning to try some hs-6 loads??? your thoughts
I was using titegroup with 147gn and dropping 3.2 grain to meet minimum power factor low recoil before putting compensator on now that load does not cycle my glock after I put the compensator on.
goning to try some hs-6 loads??? your thoughts
Magload
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Good luck. I gave up on the comp I was trying to setup on my M&P Pro 9mm. Changed recoil springs but guess I didn't have the load right and had lots of cycling problems. The comp now in on my Ruger 22LR Charger for looks. Don
Just picked up some 147gr 9mm.........
have not loaded any as yet, still doing the paper work and have lots of data to go over still.
Some have told me they have done very well with the low end fps for accuracy with this bullet.
One gentleman said that he even went to the lead bullets to get the recoil even lower for his family members.
Good shooting.
have not loaded any as yet, still doing the paper work and have lots of data to go over still.
Some have told me they have done very well with the low end fps for accuracy with this bullet.
One gentleman said that he even went to the lead bullets to get the recoil even lower for his family members.
Good shooting.
Bkreutz
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Thanks for the help guys I have my chose of bullet weights right now I am using e-xtreme 147 rn I picked up some 115 from Remington and some 124 from e-xtreme as well. I use the Glock for USPSA open class and 669 for carry. I have found that about 1100-1150 gets the glock to cycle with comp but my brass is just coming out of gun. I have hs-6 / hp-38 and titegroup powders.
I was using titegroup with 147gn and dropping 3.2 grain to meet minimum power factor low recoil before putting compensator on now that load does not cycle my glock after I put the compensator on.
goning to try some hs-6 loads??? your thoughts
I haven't had any luck getting a comp to work with a minor PF load. I can get the pistol to cycle, but there isn't enough gas to make the comp work. I use Autocomp and a 124gr RN at 1400 fps for my 9 major load. My wife says the recoil is less than my 9 Core shooting minor PF loads (136). I'm not going to argue.
Magload
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I am starting to see a trend in accuracy of these handgun bullets. Heavy and slow give tight groups. Even the lighter bullets slowed down most of the time group better, Is that because with less recoil we shoot them better? I shoot my tightest groups with my 1911 R1 with petty mild loads.
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Thanks for the help guys I have my chose of bullet weights right now I am using e-xtreme 147 rn I picked up some 115 from Remington and some 124 from e-xtreme as well. I use the Glock for USPSA open class.....................goning to try some hs-6 loads??? your thoughts
I run 6.5 gr. HS-6 with a 124 gr. JHP out of P-35/Browning Hi-Power.
It is quite accurate in my guns.
here's link to Hodgdon reloading:
Set your sights on pistol reloading data | Hodgdon Reloading
scooter123
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Zero experience with compensators but simple logic and Physics would dictate that these require a minimum level of gas flow to function. Logic and Physics would also indicate that a slow powder in combination with a heavier bullet should assist in obtaining a larger volume of available gas at the muzzle. I would suggest a "slow" powder in combination with the 147 grain bullet as a starting point and experiment from there. Looking at what you posted about powders you have on hand that means starting with HS-6 and finding a good balance between compensation and recoil. Note, I do believe that you'll find that mouse fart minimum power factor loads will NOT be in that balance. I also expect that you'll find a load with a good balance should have enough energy to function well as a Self Defense loading.
BTW, my carry ammo is a 165 grain Speer Gold dot loaded to 1150 fps and I've developed a practice load the is an exact ballistic duplicate of this load. This practice load uses Longshot which is a powder with a burn rate just a bit slower than HS-6. So, using a slower powder will produce a good SD load with adequate levels of energy.
BTW, my carry ammo is a 165 grain Speer Gold dot loaded to 1150 fps and I've developed a practice load the is an exact ballistic duplicate of this load. This practice load uses Longshot which is a powder with a burn rate just a bit slower than HS-6. So, using a slower powder will produce a good SD load with adequate levels of energy.
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With a firearm that has a comp or ports you should never use ammunition loaded with frangible projectiles. I would also never use plated projectiles in comped or ported firearms.
Frangible projectiles will almost always eject some debris out the ports or comp.
If plated projectiles start to shed the plating some will also be ejected out the ports or comp. This happens far less frequently than the issue with fragibles
Frangible projectiles will almost always eject some debris out the ports or comp.
If plated projectiles start to shed the plating some will also be ejected out the ports or comp. This happens far less frequently than the issue with fragibles
Bkreutz
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I use 6.8 gr of Autocomp, but work your load up yourself since this load is well past published maximums.
I also use thick plated bullets and have no problem with plating coming off. Loading and shooting 9mm major is not something you want to do unless you have a lot of experience, it's real close to the edge. Many open division shooters use this route for many reasons. You need to inspect your brass carefully, use only known brands, and keep track of how many times you've shot them. I throw the brass in the recycling bucket after 5 loads. The benefits I get are higher points because of a different scoring schedule for major, and I have almost no muzzle rise or recoil so the dot stays visible all the way through the shots. Have fun, but be careful. The picture will give you an idea about how much muzzle rise you get with a comp that is working correctly. (none
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