9mm powder

Have multiple bottles of different powders I picked up when first stocking up on reloading equipment. After reading the reviews in the latest Hornady book and how highly they recommended Power Pistol for 9mm that's what I went with.
I've created some spread sheets for my reloading recipes, Chrono reports and even COL test with different bullets in my pistol barrels.
One thing I've found is Berry's RN 115gr, COL 1.13, PP @ 5.9gr, M&P 4.25 barrel gives me an average 1172 FPS. 134.8 Power Factor @ 37 degrees (Winter in MN) and single hole 1.25" at 10 yards with bench rest. (30 rounds) Std Div of 18.
Because I'm shooting USPSA I've been shifting to heavier bullets and softer recoil.
I've found Berry's 147gr FP, COL 1.08, PP @ 4.3gr, M&P 5" barrel gives me an average 915 FPS, Power Factor 134.6 @ 38 degrees and grouping about 2.5" at 10 yards from bench rest. I'm not as happy with the groupings I'm getting but the recoils is definitely softer. The flat point makes a nicer hole in the cardboard. I found that anything less than 4.2gr behind the 147gr bullet started to spread the groupings and were not as accurate. 4.4 and 4.5gr didn't improve the group size just the PF
 
Another vote for CFE Pistol and AutoComp. Both are very similar powders that have little variance in performance and load data characteristics, for me anyway. They give me the velocities and accuracy I want, are relatively clean, and readily available in my area. Most importantly though I find they both meter really well out of my Lee Auto Drum powder measure. I load mostly 115-124 FMJ or XTreme plated.
 
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PP is for max effort 9mm loads imo & it is really loud. This could be why your accuracy is suffering or you are loading too small a charge & not getting uniform combustion. For midrange to full power, I prefer WSF or Unique, RS Sil. For light target loads, below midrange, just about anything that works in 45acp works great for 9mm minor too. I like WST, but RedDot or RS Comp also work fine with 147gr bullets. Some like TG, just not me.
 
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I find 9MM to be a very forgiving round as to what powders it likes. I've had great results with a wide variety of different powders. I've never shot PP, but I have shot Accurate #2, 231/HP38, WSF, Unique, Longshot and even Blue Dot with 147 grain bullets and I can't say that I've had bad results with any of those.
 
4.3gr of Titegroup under 124gr Berry's Plated RN 1.14 OAL

Very accurate shooting at 50' indoors shooting from a 39-2

Meters very well from a Pro Auto Disk in a Lee Classic Turret Press
 
When I started using 9mm in IDPA matches, I used Power Pistol under 124g bullets, loaded to exceed the IDPA minimum but not a whole lot more. It worked fine, but then I got invited to a night shoot and almost got thrown off the range because the muzzle flash was killing everybody's night vision. NObody else was using Power Pistol, and nobody else had a solar flare coming out their muzzle with every shot.

I switched to Titegroup, and have used it or AA#5 quite happily for 124g 9mm loads ever since. Have never tried the 147 grainers, but if they need a slower powder than 124s I have had excellent results with AA#7 in several other rounds, and would certainly consider that as a good starting point.
 
StakeOut said:
4.3gr of Titegroup under 124gr Berry's Plated RN 1.14 OAL

Very accurate shooting at 50' indoors shooting from a 39-2

Meters very well from a Pro Auto Disk in a Lee Classic Turret Press
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Ive found titegroup recipes work best for 147gn subsonic loads through my suppressor. Much reduced to negligible particle blowback, leads me to guess most all of it burns. But powerpistol, notsomuch.
 
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Like I've said before.....

LAA said:
I have notebooks full of memos regarding loads, powders, bullet weight, gun/barrel length and chrono results. Then they keep coming out with new powders, the stores become better stocked, and I keep trying all the new stuff. Since I'm getting much older, I think I'm loosing track. At this point, I just don't seem to have favorites anymore. If anything, it makes it more interesting.
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...the shortages made me try powders I wouldn't otherwise have tried and I found that I like a lot of them.

Red Dot, HS-38, Acc#7 are all superb powders. Titegroup is about = to Bullseye.
 
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Yeah, I know what you mean, RW. During the last Great Powder Shortage I tried Win WSF and Longshot, as well as 700-X and found that the WSF worked really well in 9MM.The Longshot also works well in 9MM too, as well as making some nice mid-range loads in 357 and 44 and the 700-X works well in 380 Auto.
 
9mm match crowd like & use Power Pistol , WSF , HS-6 , VVN-330 & 340 . If you're looking for accuracy ditch the plated bullets . Barrel twist , chamber & bore dimensions will have major effects on what loads are accurate in your gun . It's also been found by the serious that new or 1x fired cases are the ticket . All the military teams have went to slower twist ( 1 in 32 ) , new brass , Hornady 115 gr XTP JHP or the Sierra 115 FMJ . 50yd 10 shot groups from a well built gun is often 1" or less on ocassion . As stated above if you're getting 2 - 3" @ 25yds it's a good load .
 
patrickd, I agree just loaded 500 115 gr. FMJ 9mm,4.3 gr. Titegroup. I tried 50 rounds first and they shot great and the accuracy was very good. Should get 1627 rounds out of a pound, so it's a good value also.
 
I bought a $500 Armscore 9mm 1911 last week and loaded 6 grains of PP with a 125 hard cast bullet sized to .356. It was getting late but I benched it with 9 rounds at 25 yards. The group was about 3 inches with 7 about 1 1/2 inch. No muzzle flash out of the ordinary and it shot point of aim. I am not a 9mm fan but it may grow on me. I already had the brass and mold and lead so $5 per 100 will be fun as soon I smooth the trigger a little. The OP is asking about PP.:)
 
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noylj said:
1) For me, Power Pistol is number one and Silhouette is #2
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I've had some excellent results Ramshot Silhouette also it does like to be run hard it preforms well at near max standard 9mm to low +p, at least in my pistols.
 
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