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357 180 grain load suggestions
I want to load 180 grain Hornady XTP .357 defense load.
I would like some powder and grain weight charges for this bullet
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11-20-2021, 03:04 PM
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In the 1980's I developed a 180 grain Deer Load for my Marlin 357 1894 C, I used a Hornady jacketed soft hollow point with H or IMR 4227, But I have no record of how much.
It was the most accurate load in the rifle and my 28-2 4"! The felt recoil in my 28's Mag-na-ported barrel was like 146 target WC's in a Model 10!
That's not very specific, but it is worth looking into.
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Since it is for SD and not hunting you will not need a maximum load.
Blue Dot... 8.4 to 9.2 grs
2400 ....... 10 to 12.2
H110 ....... 13.9 to 14.2
imr4227 ... 14 to 14.6 ............. should work
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Hornady shows the highest velocity with 2400 but several other manuals disagree. I think you will get best results with H110/296.
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Hodgdons lists a mere 13 using a Nosler bullet...
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I load 10.5 gr. of Blue Dot. Not near max., but I'm getting around 2" groups at 100 yd. with it in a 1 in 10 twist 6" 686 PPC gun.
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I'm sorry but I have not tested these loads from a handgun. I did however test them in a Marlin Levergun. No signs of over pressure seen.
Hornady 180gr XTP bullet
Speer Brass
CCI-550 primer
15.0gr Lil'Gun @ an AV of 1584 fps
Accurate load
Hornady 180gr XTP bullet
Speer Brass
CCI-550 primer
13.6gr W296 @ an AV of 1495 fps
Very accurate load
As usual, check all data you get off the net. Mistakes can and will happen when writing numbers.
I hope this helps a little.
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I exclusively use 3N38 in a 3" L frame. I pulled the data from my keester, since there was none for the 180 XTP. My primers are FLAT, so I won't post it here. Low flash, and plenty accurate for SD work.
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...Hornady 180gr XTP bullet
Speer Brass
CCI-550 primer
15.0gr Lil'Gun @ an AV of 1584 fps
Accurate load
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I figured someone would post a load with Lil'Gun. People seem to love or hate this powder.
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I figured someone would post a load with Lil'Gun. People seem to love or hate this powder.
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I would not use Lil'Gun in a revolver because of the excessive heat it generates and the Freedom Arms report of forcing cone erosion. It does however shine in a levergun and a few rifle cartridges.
The heat it generates in a revolver is extremely high from my own experience. I posted the load because I have the data but was sure to say I use then in my Marlin.
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Loaded some 180 grain Hornady XPT bullets with 3.5 grains Bullseye.
Hornady Web Site gives 937 FPS for this load.
Have a Ruger SP-101 .357 with a 2 3/4" barrel.
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Jimmy, IMO Bullseye is way too fast a powder for a 180gr bullet in a .357 Magnum case. You really should use at least a medium speed powder like Unique, Power Pistol, True Blue and the like. You will not get close to that velocity at all in a short barrel revolver.
Why a 180gr bullet in a short barrel revolver?
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+1 on the bullseye powder being light in fps.
A 357 revolver with a 2.5" barrel and a 160 gr JSP bullet gets..........
Bullseye........ 912 fps
2400............ 1081 fps.
Things get even worst with a bigger 180 gr bullet !!
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2400 is your friend with ANY Magnum load.
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Jimmy, IMO Bullseye is way too fast a powder for a 180gr bullet in a .357 Magnum case. You really should use at least a medium speed powder like Unique, Power Pistol, True Blue and the like. You will not get close to that velocity at all in a short barrel revolver.
Why a 180gr bullet in a short barrel revolver?
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My Ruger SP--101 .357 prints low with 158 JHP bullets.
Changing grips was no help.
Trying a heavier bullets hopefully will raise the POI.
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Maybe you can add some weight under your barrel..........?
There is Meadows industries that has 3 & 8 oz weights for shotguns, that might work.
If interrested their phone number is 888-686-8043.
The only other option is changing out your sights or lear how the move the front sight around
for different impact positions.
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My Ruger SP--101 .357 prints low with 158 JHP bullets.
Changing grips was no help.
Trying a heavier bullets hopefully will raise the POI.
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With fixed sights all you need to do is change your POA to adjust the POI. That is standard practice with fixed sights without having to change anything else.
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Changing POA is SOP with fixed sights: bullet weight, bullet design, different powders, different loads, even the differing manufacturer's performance with seemingly identical ammo probably requires a routine POA adjustment...
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