For you Reloaders out there interested in Lyman
Manuals. I came upon this Ad in Handloader
Ammunition Reloading Journal February 2022 #336.

A new Lyman 51st Edition Reloading Manual is
published.

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I just looked on the Lyman site and they are not listing it there yet.

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Would be nice for a refresh with all the powders that came out in past <10 years.

Actually the 50th Edition is only 5 or 6 years old but I agree, it's always nice to have an updated manual. The problem is, I'm a load manual junkie and can't just buy the Lyman manual. I will end up buying many of the new crop that usually follows when Lyman issues a new manual.

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My problem with new manuals is they sometimes drop certain bullets from their data. The new Hornady (Annual) book actually dropped all loading data for 44 Special.

I'll need to see a hard copy before I spend money on a "new" book.

This is a great reason to keep your your old manual(s) after you get a new one . I recently was given 2 pounds of Alcan #5 powder ( not Accurate #5 ... but Alcan #5 ) Speer Manuals #8 (1970) & #9 (1974) had plenty of data for the Alcan Powders and allowed me to use it in cast lead bullet handgun reloads .
9mm Luger , 38 Special and 45 acp . Alcan #5 is just a little slower than Unique in burn rate and can be used in many handgun loads ... I hate to throw away good powder !
In these powder shortage days you need to be able to use powers that you can get ... throwing away 2 pounds of a good handgun powder would be a crime around my bench .
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Yes, I’ll get the new one when it becomes available, AND get the new manuals from other manufacturers, AND keep all my old ones. Gonna run out of bookshelf space before too long! Thanks for the heads up.

I probably won't get one, all the powders I use are in my current manual. I'm not one to run out and buy the new powders just because some Gun Magazine writer says this new powder is just he thing for use in .45, .38, 30-06, 9mm, etc. I don't own any of the new calibers, the 6.8, the 7mm world class kill everything. I get by with the 30-06 I bought in '62, SP-1 AR I've had for years, 45 APC and 38 special.
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I have the Hornady 2021 11th edition of cartridge reloading and it has a 44 special section with several loads.

Does the Hornady 11th Edition have .460 Magnum with Alliant 300-MP powder? Or is that combination in the newest Lyman 51st?

Sevens: the hornady 11th does have data for the 200gr ftx using the 300-mp. Doesn't list it for anything else.

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Thank you for that information!

My last Lyman is the 49th issue. Anyone here have the 50th or 51st?

I'm asking to find out if either issue has data for .41 Special.

There is very sparse data on the web for this wildcat cartridge and I would only be interested in buying a copy if it had that cartridge listed.

Thanks if anyone can help...

I have both - no mention of 41 Special.

Was there ever a 41 Special cartridge? I thought that was just a downloaded .41 Magnum and not a SAMMI cartridge.

Actually, I just looked on the SAMMI site and there is no reference to the 41 Special.

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People have been loading the alleged .41 Special for years. I think it's based on a cut down .41 magnum case, but I don't know if the length was standardized or not. There have been writeups over the years, but the only one I can recall offhand was in one of the GUN DIGEST (GUN DIGEST, HANDLOADER'S DIGEST, etc.) publications years ago.

I just load my lighter .41 loads into the Magnum cases and save the money that the WildCat brass would cost

I truly do not understand the fascination of the 41 Special and I am a guy that likes the unusual cartridges

I mean if there were smaller firearms that would lend themselves to the shorter brass I could see that

I will be getting a copy of the 51st edition when it is out. I have every manual I ever bought over the past 40 years of handloading

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No fascination, just a necessity. My club's indoor range was recently modified and now ALL magnum ammo is prohibited. Doesn't matter what the reason is, it's just the rule.

I inquired about cutting down mag brass and/or simply loading light and it was nixed by the bosses. It's all what the case headstamp says.

41 spl has been talked about for years, but it never caught on. Regardless, Starline is now making new brass.

My Model 57 was my Dad's deer gun and also his favorite. Only new gun he ever bought. There's no way I'm going to stop shooting it. I can sense his presence every time I fire it.

Thanks to all that responded.

I'm aware. I was addressing the fact that the 50th edition doesn't have many loads with the newer powders developed a just few years before it was published. I'm hoping 51 has copious amounts of CFEP loads.

I will get the 51st when it becomes available and keep all of my old ones. As manuals change with the times they tend to drop old powders and older ctgs in favor of the new. Lyman manuals are probably the best on the market for realistic data.

New up to date Loading guides are nice to have.

I received a new Accurate #1 from my brother but I do not use this brand of powder.
I have opened it two times, to look at some of its data but it just collects dust, for now.

The .41 Special case is the same length as the .38 Special. This article by John Taffin has a few loads in it.

http://sixguns.com/tests/tt41spec.htm


Also, this Shooting Times article.

Revisiting the .41 Special - Shooting Times

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41 Special is still a DIY wildcat . The above references are excellent and there are more on the internet .
Starline now makes 41 Special brass , Headstamped 41 Special and the proper length .
Most standard 41 Magnum reloading dies can be adjusted to seat and crimp the bullet for 41 Special loads .
Some good data can be found on the Cast Boolits Site . It is located in a "sticky" , several articles all in one place ... I printed all the articles out and have them in a 41 Special Reloading Binder (in case the net crashes) ... you wont find data in a Loading Manual ...that I know of , which is a shame .
Gary

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Unfortunately no, SAAMI has not recognized the 41 Special.

Handloader Magazine #304 and 305 had a two part series on the 41 special with a large amount of loading data. It is a good source of info.

Yes, thank you. I already had both of these sites bookmarked. I DID do a search before I started down this road.

Yes I know, I have those issues and have read them. At one time I was getting 6 magazines a month. It got to be too much so I cut it down to only one. Of course the one is Handloader Magazine...

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Starline Brass is amazing. They make some very hard to find brass and some are very surprising. They have 41 Colt, 44 Colt, 44 Russian, 45 Cowboy Special, 45 S&W (Schofield) and a bunch of 9mm cartridges to name a few.

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I have Lee .41 mag dies. With the shorter length of the Spl case, I can't lower the expander die or the bullet / crimper die enough to get any flare or crimp at all.

Just like a .357 - you can raise 38 spl dies, but you can't lower .357 dies enough to handle the spl.

There is a U-tube video re. the .41 Spl. A universal case expanding die and a .41 factory crimp die will get the job done. I have both on order.

I cut the bottom off of a 41 mag die to solve the expander and bullet seating die problem. I ordered a 41 special Profile Crimp Die from Redding since I crimp in a separate step anyway.