Clean Shot powder, 32 sw long, hot load data

Casual Smith Nut · Jan 11, 2022

This may be of interest for anyone who uses the newer Clean Shot powder. I think it’s produced by Lovex or Shooters World. Anyhow there’s a few websites which give load data for their powders. Here’s one of them:

https://explosia.cz/app/uploads/2019/07/EXPLOSIA_reloading2019_en_new.pdf

I loaded up some 32 SW Longs using max load data 3.4gr of Clean Shot with boolit 93gr Lee swc lighty roll crimped at the last crimp groove before the driving band. The site gives expected velocity in low 900 fps range. Out of a 4 inch barrel, these loads ran avg 1,025 fps which is considerably hotter than advertised. Extraction was not at all sticky and primers had no pressure signs. No leading at all after 50 rds.

I would not run these loads in any of the old Smith or Colt hand ejectors... best to run them through a modern gun capable of 32 H&R Mag for safety.

As usual start low and work up is the lesson. However I find it unusual that given published load data would be so hot.

Anyone else try a similar loading with Clean Shot powder?

Ivan the Butcher · Jan 11, 2022

I never use it in 32, but have in 45 Colt, 38-55, and 20 & 12 gauge all brass hulls. I like the easy clean up. Velocities run just below black powder (FFg vs FFg) for equal volumes.

When shooting Black Powder, dropping the fires cased in water stained them pretty bad, so I started using blue windshield washer fluid, I don't know if that is necessary with Clean Shot, but I do it anyway and they are very shiny the next day, when I deprime and start drying them out.

All my Clean Shot and BP loads are done by volume, not weight. I usually use a muzzle loader powder measure. So my 12 gauge load is 95 or 100 grains by volume, the actual weight always seems to be around 10% less. This is probably the velocity difference you are experiencing.

Ivan

Casual Smith Nut · Jan 11, 2022

It could be. I’ve read elsewhere where people use same load data as bullseye and get similar results.

P.W.Herman · Jan 11, 2022

Does this stuff smoke? Goex used to make something called clean shot years ago, this the same stuff?

Ivan the Butcher · Jan 11, 2022

Not the same.

Ivan

Casual Smith Nut · Jan 11, 2022

Nope definitely not the same but it does live up to its name as clean shot.

jaymoore · Jan 13, 2022

Ivan the Butcher said:
I never use it in 32, but have in 45 Colt, 38-55, and 20 & 12 gauge all brass hulls. I like the easy clean up. Velocities run just below black powder (FFg vs FFg) for equal volumes.

When shooting Black Powder, dropping the fires cased in water stained them pretty bad, so I started using blue windshield washer fluid, I don't know if that is necessary with Clean Shot, but I do it anyway and they are very shiny the next day, when I deprime and start drying them out.

All my Clean Shot and BP loads are done by volume, not weight. I usually use a muzzle loader powder measure. So my 12 gauge load is 95 or 100 grains by volume, the actual weight always seems to be around 10% less. This is probably the velocity difference you are experiencing.

Ivan

From the Shooter's World loading manual it seems much more likely that you are referring to "MULTI PURPOSE BLACK" as, for example, the max charge for Clean Shot in .45 Colt with a 250gr bullet is listed at 7.7 gr.

Hadn't heard about Multi Purpose Black before, though- velly intellesting.

glowe · Jan 13, 2022

Casual Smith Nut said:
This may be of interest for anyone who uses the newer Clean Shot powder. I think it’s produced by Lovex or Shooters World. Anyhow there’s a few websites which give load data for their powders. Here’s one of them:

https://explosia.cz/app/uploads/2019/07/EXPLOSIA_reloading2019_en_new.pdf

I cannot find any reference to "Clean Shot" in that attachment?? Clean Shot for me is a black powder substitute that is now marketed under the name American Select.

I do find a powder called Shooter's World Clean Shot that appears to be a completely different powder than the original BP substitute???? Seems like a bad idea to bring back that name for a smokeless loading powder.

Clean Shot Powder - Propellant | Shooters World

Casual Smith Nut · Jan 13, 2022

Clean Shot is the label name for D032 powder found on page 8 of the website in the link. Sorry should have specified the numerical name. There’s other powder names too with the same company such as “Heavy Pistol” which they equate to having characteristics similar to Accurate #9. Each powder has its numerical name.

ddixie884 · Jan 13, 2022

Many people have rechambered J frame .32 S&W longs to .32 H&R caliber. I believe the later S&W and Colt .32s are capable of better performance than early break tops and I frames. Of course all have to make there own choices.........

Casual Smith Nut · Jan 13, 2022

Exactly! I’d have no issues running those hot loads through a more modern J-frame hand ejector. However it definitely “felt” too warm for the older I-frame hand ejectors... at least for my personal precautions. I’m thinking not to use such warm loads though in the future as a safety precaution to avoid that those loads would ever find their way to an older I-frame. It might not kaboom but certainly would put unnecessary wear on the firearm. Best to stay within normal limits. I ran those 3.4gr loads through a 327 mag chambered revolver.

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