Royal Case and die lube

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Recently I found this product at a local gunshop, the owner encouraged me to try this fabulous lube.....I did, he was right.

I really like this product over the One Shot I have been using for years.

What about you fellow reloaders and experience with it?

Randy
 
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Zero. I have for many years used only STP on a pad. One can of STP (if it is still made) is probably adequate for several lifetimes.
 
DWalt said:
Zero. I have for many years used only STP on a pad. One can of STP (if it is still made) is probably adequate for several lifetimes.
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yes, it is still made. I use it in small engines, and or well aged cars I need to flog a few more miles out of.
I pondered its use in this capacity.
 
I use Imperial Sizing Wax for rifle cases.

When loading handgun brass every once and a while I will give the cases a little spray of One Shot. Even though it's not needed with Carbide dies it just makes sizing them easier. Don't forget to let it dry completely before you try to resize a rifle case. If you don't you will stick a case.
 
ArchAngelCD said:
I use Imperial Sizing Wax for rifle cases.

When loading handgun brass every once in a while I will give the cases a little spray of One Shot. Even though it's not needed with Carbide dies it just makes sizing them easier. Don't forget to let it dry completely before you try to resize a rifle case. If you don't you will stick a case.
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A big plus on both Imperial on rifle and light spray of lube on pistol cases. The little lube on handgun cases with progressive loaders keeps the whole process running smoother...JMO
 
I use Lee case lube for the easy jobs .
I lile it's water soluable and non-greasy features .
Thin the case lube with alcohol and apply as a "spray" , let dry and the dry non-greasy film works on normal resizing jobs and wipes off easy .

Now for the Heavy-Duty reforming - resizing jobs ... STP Oil Treatment on a clean ink pad . A case lubed with STP will get reformed - resized .
It's Greasy Kid Stuff alright and must be wiped off but it's one of the best resizing lubricants on the market ... and it looks and feels like the lubes sold by Lyman RCBS and Redding in the 1970's .
Gary
 
It's the only lube I use for resizing rifle cases.

I've used them all, and Royal is hands-down the best of the bunch.

The only negative is wiping down the cases after they are sized - I've tried wet and dry tumbling and both just made the cases dull.

So, there is an extra step, but it's no big deal to me - I'd rather spend an extra 30 min wiping down brass than struggle at the press resizing 7.62 all day long.
 
I wipe lubricant off cases after resizing using a paper towel dampened with mineral spirits Sometimes I do it after the cases have been loaded.

If I am doing several hundred cases, I do the wiping while watching TV.

Some claim Johnson’s Paste Wax works as a sizing lubricant, but that is something I have not tried. Has anyone? Meanwhile I will keep using STP. And yes, STP is still made and is available. I usually thin it down a little with mineral spirits before applying to the pad, but that is not essential.
 
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DWalt said:
Some claim Johnson’s Paste Wax works as a sizing lubricant, but that is something I have not tried. Has anyone? Meanwhile I will keep using STP. .
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I have used paste wax to lube cases. Worked but I wouldn't recommend it...especially on rifle cases. Way back in the day...CH and possibly Pacific sold case lube in small bottles. I still have one or two. I would swear they contained STP! I will try to find one and see. It was thick stuff. Worked good though hard to remove. I used 40-70% alcohol cause I got it free. Bonanza sold little tubs of white lanolin. Was about as good as Imperial. My wife finally used it all up on her hands/skin. The white Hornady lube was NOT the same and not as good as a case lube either
 
Back in the really old days, most every reloader used lanolin as a resizing lube, and it was sold as such. Some called it Wool Fat. I have never tried it. I don't even know where I would find it if I wanted any.
 
Lanolin can still be found in some pharmacies and pharma suppliers. My wife used the Bonanza lube because it was 100% lanolin and I had bought 8 tubs for a buck a piece. I was going to use it swaging bullets. I joked with her about using sheep dip on her skin. Smooth as a...oh never mind...TMI
 
I have found the Lyman spray to effective. Give the cases a light spray and place in a large plastic bag for a day or two. Seems to "crawl" completely around the cases which just slide in and out of the dies. I also always lube for carbide dies.
 
DWalt said:
Back in the really old days, most every reloader used lanolin as a resizing lube, and it was sold as such. Some called it Wool Fat. I have never tried it. I don't even know where I would find it if I wanted any.
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Dillon sells Lanolin already mixed with alcohol and ready to use. Probably others sell ready to use Lanolin. If you want to DIY it, you can buy pure Lanoiln oil on Amazon
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Folks say to dilute it 1:8 or 1:10 with 99% Isopropyl alcohol but I found that doesn't readily dissolve lanolin. From the many other threads about this, I picked up the idea of using HEET in the red bottle
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That stuff dissolves lanolin very well. It is 99% IPA but whatever the other 1% is, it is much better for dissolving lanolin. I am guessing it's ether.

FYI, Dillon also sells a non-lanolin "synthetic" lube which is what they recommend for handgun loading. They still recommend lanolin type for rifle.

Most people think about lube for the outside of the case and while it is said to not be needed if you use carbide dies, Dillon recommends it anyway. However, you may have felt your case hang up or get stuck coming out of the expander die and also the crimp die. This is due to the brass galling or cold welding to the expander. You need a clean and polished expander die and lube inside the case to stop the galling. Makes a huge difference. Dillon has assured me that both of their lubes as well as One Shot do not affect the burn inside the case.

See my recent thread where I got heavily into the polishing aspect.
Brass deposit form vertical lines on Dillon powder funnel
 
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Wax based lubes have proven themselves to be superior for many tougher jobs.

I have Hornady, Imperial, Lee, and likely others I don't recall at the moment, but the cheap Lee stuff works great.

I have and still use a lot of mink oil, Hornady Unique and it is quite effective, but it can't match the wax based stuff for stubborn bottleneck cases.

Regardless of type I use roll pads and nylon brushes for inside the case necks.
 
I use Imperial for neck-sizing rifle brass.

Real easy to use. Every fourth case I stick the neck in the wax before sizing. There is enough residual on the die to size the next 3.

I just wipe brass with a dry rag afterwards; no special cleaning needed.
 
2 weeks ago I finished sizing and priming almost 500 222 Rem cases. Imperial did the trick. I just wipe my finger tip on the Imperial and rub the shoulder/neck area. 21.5 gr 4198 is next. Going to use 50 gr Rem HPs with most...some 40 gr Nosler BTs. Ought to be 'nuff for the yotes and PDs for a while. Next is going to be 38s. The 38s will get a spray of Hornady spray lube. I got one of the Lee APP thingies that I want to deprime some of those cases with. Have 18 boxes of once fired Peters brass. I got the spay lube as well as a bottle of Dillon spray lube in a box of reloading junk at a local auction for 2.50. I want to load them with wadcutters like they were originally. Some for a display cause I have the original boxes. I got another Herter's press in the auction...paid 2.50 for it. Didn't really want the press. I got 12 of the old Herters shell holders with it I get 10 bucks each for them. BTW That spray lube works on presses too. Spray...let dry...use.
 
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Hey, Skeet, if you get the chance, try my favorite .222 load:

23.8gr IMR 8208 XBR

40gr V-Max

Super accurate in my rifle.
 
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