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I have some reloads in my stash that are loaded with 12 grains H110 behind a 40 grain jacket soft point.

The Hogdon website lists the following


40 GR. HDY JET PRIMER REMINGTON 5 1/2, SMALL PISTOL MAGNUM
Starting Load 10.0 gr 1,892 FPS
Maximum Loads 11.0 gr 2,019 FPS

Velocity is from an 8=3/8 barrel

Based on this, the loaded cartridges are over max, so unless someone has used this load and can reassure me, I should probably dismantle these. Thoughts?
 
Old data from Sierra: 10.5 H110 max. with 40 grain jacketed bullet; MV = 1800 fps from 6" revolver barrel.
 
John Taffin, writing in the May 1994 issue of American Handgunner, lists 12.0 gr. H110 as max with the Hornady 40 gr. JSP for 1745 fps., which may well be where your unknown handloader got the idea.

Stan Trzoniec shows up to 14.5 grains in Handloader 263 (Jan. 2010) but that's for a Contender, not an M53 Smith.

I wouldn't shoot those loads in my pistol. They quit making them almost fifty years ago, after a run of some 15,000 guns, so I baby mine.
 
Venom6 said:
I wouldn't shoot those loads in my pistol. They quit making them almost fifty years ago, after a run of some 15,000 guns, so I baby mine.
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Yeah, I have a couple hundred PPU and parts to make more, so I'll pull these apart and download them. Kinda figured that.

What load do you shoot in yours?

Thank you
 
raljr1 said:
Yeah, I have a couple hundred PPU and parts to make more, so I'll pull these apart and download them. Kinda figured that.

What load do you shoot in yours?

Thank you
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As you prolly know, we're supposed to shoot .222" or .223" bullets. I've got a couple hundred of each, but they are increasingly tough to find. Kent Bellah (1963 Gun Digest) and Phil Johnston (Guns Dec. 1984) have both written about cautiously using light .224" bullets. As it turns out this depends on the specific revolver. Per their advice, my pistol will pass a .224" bullet through its throats, so I have been using 35 gr. Hornady Vmax's with, variously, IMR 4227, H110 (W296 comes out of the same spout. Yes, it does), and H2400. So far so good. Shot a badger with it last year. One of the many fascinating aspects of the Jet is its very mild recoil coupled with epic, even Biblical, blast. Wear plugs and muffs. If plugs alone they will be driven into the center of your brain by concussion in one cylinder full.
 
Venom6 said:
As you prolly know, we're supposed to shoot .222" or .223" bullets. I've got a couple hundred of each, but they are increasingly tough to find. Kent Bellah (1963 Gun Digest) and Phil Johnston (Guns Dec. 1984) have both written about cautiously using light .224" bullets. As it turns out this depends on the specific revolver. Per their advice, my pistol will pass a .224" bullet through its throats, so I have been using 35 gr. Hornady Vmax's with, variously, IMR 4227, H110 (W296 comes out of the same spout. Yes, it does), and H2400. So far so good. Shot a badger with it last year. One of the many fascinating aspects of the Jet is its very mild recoil coupled with epic, even Biblical, blast. Wear plugs and muffs. If plugs alone they will be driven into the center of your brain by concussion in one cylinder full.
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I have 600 pcs of Hornady .222 jet bullets. I have offered 200 of them for sale because with 400 loaded rounds and components for reloading those, I sincerely doubt I'll ever put 800 rounds thru this gun


Robert
 
And while we are at it, I knew that w231 and HP38 were the same, now I know that h110 and w296 are the same.

So why is HP38 cheaper than w231, if Hodgon is buying it from Winchester? Things that make me go hmmmmm.

Robert
 
Matunas was highly knowledgeable and well respected, though known for his caution. He recommends only .222" bullets.
 

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1986. Matunas was '84 I think.
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It has some dated material that I wouldn't use, but overall, NRA's "Handloading" is an excellent reference source that every serious handloader should have. I don't know if it remains in print or not, but used copies shouldn't be hard to find. I'm not aware of different printings. My first one had seen so much use, I had it taped together. Last year, I found another copy in much better condition.
 
A copper jacketed soft lead .224 bullet becomes a .222 bullet with almost 0 effort, either in a sizer or a forcing cone.

Guys fire .454 and larger lead bullets in 45 colts with over sized throats into .452 bores all the time. 358 bullets into 357 bores etc etc. They are displacing far and away more material with their 250 gr slugs than any 45 gr bullet

I made a .223 sizing die and simply shove the 224 bullets through it.

Bought a .223 chucking reamer, drilled and reamed a piece of steel to .223 and turned the OD to match the sizing dies for my bullet sizer.

You could also drill and ream a piece about 1" long, machine the base of it to go in a reloading press ram like a shell holder, then take an old seating die and make a long stem for it that stuck out the bottom and use it to size .224 to .223
 
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