I think this is a 1905 smith in 32-20,dont know if some one took a wire brush to it at some point thirs no name on it.the sn#1017** is at the bottom of the grip frame.It works good for what it is.

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The old S&W .32-20s are interesting guns. The serial number on yours suggests manufacture around 1920/21. Does it say .32-20 on the barrel? Or .32 WCF or .32 Winchester? Those are all the same cartridge.

If it says .32 Long, that's a different cartridge and I want to buy the gun.

The lanyard loop is a little surprising; its presence makes me think of police or military use. I'm not sure civilian models came with the loops, though I imagine you could get any feature you wanted on a special order. The four inch barrel also speaks to

Those stocks may not be slightly older than the gun they are mounted on. The gold medallions are usually seen on 'teens-era revolvers. During the '20s, S&W stocks had no medallions. In the '30s, medallions came back but were silver in color.

In case the Antiques moderator looks at this thread, maybe it could be moved over into the 1896-1961 section. Despite its age, this gun is really one of the "modern" hand ejector models.

EDITED TO ADD: On closer inspection, something seems not right to me about the trigger guard profile. Do you see the words "Smith & Wesson" or the S&W logo anywhere on the gun? Maybe I am too suspicious, but I wonder if this could be a S&W knockoff.

EDITED AGAIN A FEW MINUTES LATER: I'm pretty sure this is not an authentic S&W. For its presumed age, it should have an exposed hammer stud and rebound slide pin on the left side of the frame. Neither is visible on your gun.

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I was told it might be spanish,as they made thousands of copys.thir is a faint stamp on the right side look like S&W logo.hard to tell

The hammer is the wrong shape, the trigger guard is the wrong shape, the trigger is too far forward in the guard and there does not appear to ever been knurling on the ejector rod head, and the sideplate screws aren't in the correct location. There doesn't seem to be a mainspring strain screw. There are no hammer, trigger, rebound (lever or slide), or slide stop pins showing as should be on a gun with this style ejector and SN. The lanyard swivel would be really unusual on that gun.

Wire brushing will wash out markings, but not totally obliterate them.

Conclusion, it is a Spanish copy of a S&W with S&W stocks, that don't fit, on it. Take the stocks off and you will find a Colt type "V" mainspring driving a lever which serves to power the trigger, hand, and act as a rebound, just like a Colt. Might be Belgian and not Spanish, but there should be Belgian proof marks on it if this is the case.

Youall may be right,think this is a spanish copy.It is a 32-20 i had it looked at and sluged

I had a feeling that this was a spanish gun,all the points you all gave me told me alot.Its still a good shooter and ill keep it.wish it was a smith,butt the guy killed the value if it was a smith so no loss. didnt pay a lot for it and its fun to shoot.killed a rabbit with it so i have some use to it.thanks again.

found out who made this gun.LA INDUSTRIAL ORBEA-EIBAR SPAIN.Company closed in 1926.So it is old,just not a S&W.

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