S&W 1917: remembering the Brazilian Expeditionary Force

Douglas Jr.

Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2010
Messages
45
Reaction score
297
Location
Brazil (South America)
Hello all,

I just recently joined the forum, as I'm becoming an adiction S&W revolvers. So, allow me to present you the gun that triggered this new interest.

Here is my Brazilian Contract Smith & Wesson Model 1917 revolver. I know these are not the "big deal" for most of you, but it really enjoyed this one, so allow me to bug you with its historical background.

By 1937 the Brazilian Armed Forces had started a weapons updating program - the first organized process of purchase modern equipment since 1910. In late 1930s, the standard sidearm of the Brazilian Army was the 7,65mm Luger pistol (in its “Model 1906” configuration) but most of the 5000 guns bought in 1908 were already worn out or had been transferred to State Law Enforcements. To make things worse, several minor purchasing of both original as well Spanish copies of Smith & Wesson MP revolvers had been made during the 20s.

Then in late 30s it was decided that, for logistical and strategic matters, the sidearm must be standardized. The Army Ordnance chose the .45 ACP ammo as the new caliber for the Armed Forces and went shopping. An order for 25,000 M1917 revolvers for Smith & Wesson followed (another 25,000 Colts M1911A1 were also bought, but this is another story). The revolver, which was choose also because it was easier to be trained and handle with when compared with semi-autos, was intended to be issued to NCOs and/or rear guard soldiers (MPs, artillery officers, cavalry, etc.). An additional contract of around 12,000 guns was made right after WWII and shipped in 1946.

According to author and researcher Roy Jinks these guns falls in the following serial ranges:

First Brazilian Contract Group (25,000 units), shipped beginning in 1938, serial number range: 181983 to 207043

Second Brazilian Contract Group (12,000 units), shipped beginning in 1946, two serial number ranges: (1) 166,000 to 175150 and (2) 207,196 to 209878.

The “Modelo 1937” revolver is almost a clone of the Smith & Wesson M1917 (“N” frame) that served with the US military in both World Wars, with only few minor changes (such as the rear sight): had plain, smooth wood grips as well as checkered grips with S&W medallion, serrated trigger, a lanyard ring, is marked “Made in USA” on the right side of the frame and “S&W D.A. 45” on the left side of the barrel and fires the 45 ACP using the famous half moon clips. According to a friend who visited S&W plant in early 90s and make contact with their historians, the Brazilian revolvers were assembled with both newly made parts with commercial finishing standards and stocked psrts – and also help S&W finances that were in bad shape at that time. The Brazilian "Modelo 1937" revolvers

In 1944, when the Brazilian Expeditionary Force went to Italy (under the 5th US Army) to fight in WWII, most of its troops were fit after its arriving in Naples (mostly Colt M1911A1 pistols, Springfield M1903 rifles, M3A1 submachine guns and M1 carbines). However, a few hundred of revolvers “Modelo 1937” went with some officers that preferred this kind of weapon instead of the semi-auto pistol (at least one Brazilian general is known to have carried one of these in Italy) and with the Brazilian Military Police staff.

After the war the “Modelo 1937” revolvers stayed in service for three more decades, to be finally withdrawn from use in mid-1970s. My father, who served in an anti-aircraft battery in 1965-1966, remembers to see a few cavalry troops armed with the S&W revolver. Unfortunately for Brazilian collectors, most of the survivors (and there were many) were sold to US Gun Surplus dealers in 1989-1990 and not many have remained down here. But I finally got myself one this year. This one, serial number 200301, came with Pachmayr shooting grips but I managed to find a very nice set of repro grips, thanks to a fellow collector in US.

Hope you enjoyed, remembering that it served my country during one World War and for three more decades after that. It is a loud statement of the fine quality of these guns. And, to remember the 25,000 Brazilian soldiers that also fought against the Nazis in Italy, I made some special photos to celebrate them.

In some of the pictures you can see the "Smoking Snake" patch wore by the Brazilian troops. The story regarding the origin of the phrase about a smoking snake is controversial.

Due to the Brazilian dictatorship's unwillingness to get more deeply involved in the Allied war effort, by 1942 a popular saying was that "it's more likely for snakes to start to smoke now than for the BEF to set out." ("Mais fácil uma cobra fumar do que a FEB embarcar"). Until the BEF entered combat, the expression "a cobra vai fumar" ("snakes will smoke") was often used in Brazil in a context similar to "when pigs fly." As a result, the soldiers of the BEF called themselves Cobras Fumantes (literally, Smoking Snakes), hence the divisional shoulder patch that showed a snake smoking a pipe. After the war the meaning was reversed, signifying that something will definitively happen and in a furious and aggressive way.

This fighting spirit is clearly illustrated by an episode that ocurred near the end of war. During the capture of Montese, three Brazilian soldiers, Arlindo Lúcio da Silva, Geraldo Baeta da Cruz, and Geraldo Rodrigues de Souza, when on a patrol, ran into an entire German Company. Though ordered to surrender, the Brazilians refused and fought to the death. In recognition of their bravery, the Germans would bury them and write on their crosses "Drei brasilianische Helden" (Three Brazilian Heroes). It is also interesting to note that the Brazilian Army was not racial-segregated, which caused some amusement to the Americans from the 5th Army.

For those interested the learn more about the Brazilian Expeditionary Force, I highly recommend the essay "Brazil and World War II: The Forgotten Ally" by Frank D. McCann (New Hapshire University):

EIAL VI2 - Brazil and World War II: The Forgotten Ally.What did you do in the war, Z Carioca?

Sorry for the long post. If is not according to the forum rules, feel free to delete it.

Regards,

Douglas.
 

Attachments

  • foto-1.jpg
    foto-1.jpg
    35.8 KB · Views: 885
  • foto-2.jpg
    foto-2.jpg
    35.1 KB · Views: 906
  • foto-3.JPG
    foto-3.JPG
    58.7 KB · Views: 858
  • foto-4.JPG
    foto-4.JPG
    52.5 KB · Views: 739
  • foto-5.jpg
    foto-5.jpg
    43.1 KB · Views: 694
Last edited:
An artistic picture (for those who wants a screensaver), followed by some images of Brazilian troops in Italy.
 

Attachments

  • foto-21.jpg
    foto-21.jpg
    129.2 KB · Views: 558
  • soldier-05.jpg
    soldier-05.jpg
    48.6 KB · Views: 652
  • soldier-02.jpg
    soldier-02.jpg
    97.9 KB · Views: 623
  • soldier-04.jpg
    soldier-04.jpg
    107.9 KB · Views: 635
  • soldier-03.jpg
    soldier-03.jpg
    110.8 KB · Views: 750
Last edited:
Lat, but not the least, are two pictures of the M937 (how it was called here) in use. The first picture was taken in 1943 during a recrut training. The second image has a soldier that went to Suez Channel in 1958 as part of the UNO Peacekeeper forces that stayed there for years...

Hope you enjoy it. If I made any wrong statement, please feel free to correct me.

All the best,

Douglas.
 

Attachments

  • soldier-06.jpg
    soldier-06.jpg
    76.9 KB · Views: 1,050
  • soldier-07.jpg
    soldier-07.jpg
    33.6 KB · Views: 944
Thank you, sir, for your detailed post. We collectors/shooters in the United States have come to appreciate the M37, but rarely hear much about its use by your countrymen. Well done!

Steve
 
Douglas

Thanks for the interesting and informative posting. I have always been a fan of the Model 1937, although I know that some colectors look down on them, sort of like the "red headed stepchild" of the N frames. Interesting too is that the Brazilians were previously armed with Luger pistols, I can never remember seeing any of them show up here on the US market.
 
Douglas, thanks for all the pictures. I appreciate both your enthusiasm and your narrative.

I have a Brazilian that I finally determined would have been part of the 1946 contract -- round-top frame, parts numbers from the 1920s. It was well used and had some issues when I got it, but I replaced some parts, cleaned it well, tuned it up and now have an excellent .45 ACP shooter.

A lot of other people here have similar high regard for the Brazilian contract 1917s.
 
Thank you Douglas for an interesting and informative post.
Eventhough I have an interest in WW2,I confess my ignorance of the Braziian contribution.
 
Yes, thank you Douglas!

I have a couple of the 1937's that I bought from the importer, that were unissued, with only a few handling marks. I stuck them aside for the day when folks would realize what gems they are.
 
A nice history. How are your laws in Brazil? Do you have local firing ranges?

My son-in-law had a Brazilian 1911 .45 ACP. Unfortunately, he sold before I expressed interest in it. I did fire it and it is the same as a U.S.G.I. .45.

I also own a 1917 Brazilian. It's pure joy to shoot.

Did the Brazilians also have Broom Handle Mausers and were they made in Germany and imported or perhaps some made in Brazil?

Lowpower
 
Douglas Jr., great posts and photos. I've only owned my Brazilian (serial # 1897XX, with 7246 stamped on the backstrap) a couple months. In limited use it has already proven to be a good shooter.

Thanks for the history of these grand old S&Ws and of the Brazilian unit in WWII.
 
Thank you for your GREAT post. Green bullets ? also would like to know more about guns & ammo ownership. Thank again.
 
Mike,
I still think that serial range is wider than previously reported, as several "flyers" has risen.I heard of even three digit serial numbers - but never saw one.

Douglas
 
Thank you for the excellent narrative and for including so many excellent photographs. This is very educational to me as I never knew most of what you posted.

The question below: I think Mr. Jinks has acknowledged that there are quite a few Brazillians that fall outside his approximate ranges. I have one myself. Some time after WWII, when S&W was cleaning house in anticipation of returning to civilian production, some long-forgotten WWI frames and other parts turned up. These were made up into M1917s and sent along to Brazil with the rest of the 1946 shipment.

Hmmmm...My Brazilian is sn's 163,5xx. Does not seem to fit in either date range of issue.....???
 
also would like to know more about guns & ammo ownership. Thank again.

Thanks for all your compliments. As I just joined the forum, I decided to collaborate in some way with a different kind of information. I strongly believe that a forum is a two-way road, as you should also share information and not only ask.

Well concerning gun ownership in Brazil, I will try to sum it up to you.

As a general rule, a civilian is allowed to own only two guns of each type: two handguns (pistol or revolver), two rifle and two shotguns. For those guns the caliber is also limited: 380 ACP for pistols, 38 S&W Special for revolvers, 12 ga. for shotguns and .44-40 for rifles. Full automatic guns, suppressors and restricted calibers are prohibited and you can face preventive prison without bail in case of offense. These are the guns allowed for personal defense, basically.

However, if you decide to become a collector, first you must to obtain a specific authorization which is issued by the Brazilian Army’s “Controlled Products Inspection Office” (SFPC). Your criminal background is checked and several documents must be presented. The cost for the 1st certification is around US$ 500.00. The license must be renewed every two years but the costs are much cheaper: US$ 200.00. Every year you must to inform what guns are in your collection and every transfer should be reported.

At this point you may want to ask: what’s the advantage?

It is quite simple: by getting the “Firearms Collector’s License” you have no restrictions concerning caliber or quantity of guns you are allowed to own. In addition, you can also own all kind of full automatic firearms IF made prior to 1945 (which is enough to me). No modification or deactivation are needed.

Black powder guns are considered obsolete and do not require registration or authorization. However, for precaution, most collectors prefer to register this type of guns also.

Hunters and sportive shooters (IPSC, etc.) also have specific statutes. So there are gun clubs and shooting ranges down here.

There are also severe restrictions about displaying, carrying or selling collectable guns, in a way that it is virtually impossible (or VERY DIFFICULT) to have gun shows. The media (supported by the government and non-governmental organizations) is highly biased against pro-gun public.

Back in 2005 there was move to legally prohibit the gun ownership by civilians in Brazil (as happened in Australia and UK). This proposition was submitted to a public consult and, to my surprise, it was plainly rejected by 67% of the voters, in spite of all the campaign against the guns conducted by those entities. But this environment (and the endemic violence in major cities areas) made most of the collectors became more and more low profile and reclusive during the last ten years.

So, you must to rely only on your network with other collectors to find the guns. This is the only source we have, as there is no gun shows at all as you have in US.

I think that's it. Feel free to ask any further questions.

Douglas.
 
Wow! Thanks Douglas for a great post and very informative follow-up questions and answers!

Great job!
 
Thank you Douglas for an interesting and informative post.
Eventhough I have an interest in WW2,I confess my ignorance of the Braziian contribution.

The Brazilain Expeditionary Force troops won several bravery medals from US (remembering that it was attached to the 5th US Army). One Distinguished Service Cross, a. 30 Silver Stars and around 180 Bronze Stars were awarded to Brazilian soldiers. They had 465 KIA, 2,722 WIA, 35 POWs and 16 MIA.
But they captured 2 generals, 892 officers and more than 19,000 soldiers from German and Fascists Italian troops.

In addition, Brazil also sent a Fighter-Bomber Squadron ("Senta a Púa"), who flew in Italy attached to the USAAF 350th Fighter Group, using P-47 Thunderbolts fighters, mostly on ground attack missions. The 1st Fighter Group personnel received 17 Distinguished Flying Cross (US), 127 Air Medals and five Bronze Stars. As a result this unit was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation (US). They lost nine pilots (KIA / KIFA) and flew 445 missions, 2,550 individual sorties, and 5,465 combat flight hours, from 11 November 1944 to 6 May 1945.

Below some pictures of the Air Force guys who fought in Italy, and one of their P-47 currently preserved in a museum (I took the picture).

I thought you may like to see these old newsreels:
YouTube - ‪FEB - Brazil at war with the Nazis 1942/1943 by Newsrell‬‎
YouTube - ‪FILME AMERICANO SOBRE A FEB 1944‬‎


Douglas.
 

Attachments

  • soldado%20aliado-116.jpg
    soldado%20aliado-116.jpg
    71 KB · Views: 252
  • soldado%20aliado-406.jpg
    soldado%20aliado-406.jpg
    78.5 KB · Views: 246
  • soldado%20aliado-408.jpg
    soldado%20aliado-408.jpg
    46.1 KB · Views: 245
  • esq_verde.jpg
    esq_verde.jpg
    75.4 KB · Views: 238
  • DSC02764.jpg
    DSC02764.jpg
    61.8 KB · Views: 247
Back
Top