The .38 M&P Target Model of 1946 (Mexican) -- now with pics

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[THREAD AGE ALERT: The original post dates back several years. The photos mentioned in the title were lost in the Great Photobucket Catastrophe. I need to rephotograph the gun and get replacement images up. I have one recent photo that I include as a placeholder until I can do the photos correctly.]

I finally had a chance to work on the 1946 Mexican that I mentioned in a thread several days ago. I am starting this new thread in the hopes I can keep it focused on images and facts about this uncommon model. I'm afraid my enthusiasm led me to post a bad picture and some high energy speculation in that other thread when I should have just stayed patient until I could get some better photos. (These still aren't great, but at least they adequately illustrate the distinctions I want to draw.) My apologies and regrets to all for my prior haste.

S814910, shipped April 30, 1946 to Frank Jonas on Wall Street in NYC. Jonas was one of S&W's biggest exporters, and this gun was shipped to him as a single item, suggesting that he had perhaps asked for an inspection unit to see if he could develop a foreign market for it.

The 1946 Target is a long-action revolver that differs from the prewar .38 M&P Target in its larger micro-click rear sight and the necessarily taller front sight. Though S&W moved in the direction of barrel ribs for all its target revolvers after WWII, the Model of 1946 still has an unribbed barrel. In this it resembles the prewar K-22 Second Model (or Model of 1940), the first commercially available revolver with large click-adjustable sights.



When S&W finally set the specs for its postwar K-Masterpiece revolvers, they adopted a grooved, flat-top foot for the rear sight in place of what they had experimented with in the K-22/40 and the Model of 1946. In those models, the rear sight had an ungrooved foot that was contoured to mate with the rounded top of the frame.



The higher notch in the rear sight necessitated a much taller front sight, which in the 1946 sported a Call gold bead.




The rear sight, by the way, is numbered to the gun. Here is a photo of the underside of the sight next to the serial number on the butt.



The S prefix is deserved in the Model of 1946 because the gun is equipped with the new hammer safety block, which became standard in early 1945. Perhaps surprisingly the S prefix does not appear on the secondarily numbered parts of the gun alongside the numerical portion of the number. It is not on the barrel...



and not on the cylinder...



The S prefix is also absent from the yoke surface. I neglected to take a photo of that one when I had the chance.

The 1946 has six-groove backstrap and forestrap, as we might expect on a target model:



As far as I know, the 1946 is found only with a single-line address and the large ejector rod knob. The 1946 and several dozen early K-38 Masterpieces are thus the only postwar target .38s known to share these features at the time of production.

Apart from the sights, the single most typical characteristic of the 1946 is a small single line rollmark MARCA REGISTRADA that is found on the sideplate beneath the trademark.



That mark is there because the company was mindful of a trademark dispute in foreign courts that found the company was not protected with a simple English-language assertion of corporate right in some countries where Spanish was the primary language. Two years later, in 1948, the company would add the plural form of the phrase to its expanded address block.

The rollmark is there at all on this model because the vast majority of them were shipped to Mexico, a fact that leads to the common shorthand designation for this model -- "The Mexican." (This is a different gun from the Model of 1891 .38 SA revolver also known by that nickname.) I used to believe that they were sold on a government contract and were intended to arm the Federal Police (or at least senior officers among the Federales), but evidence suggests they were shipped to a commercial importer for sale to members of the public. Most of what is known about these guns comes from company records, as the guns themselves are almost never seen. In his 1977 book History of Smith & Wesson, Roy Jinks reported that 2091 units were produced with serial numbers scattered through a range running from S812000 to S817000. In later years, specimens turned up with serial numbers in the S832xxx and S833xxx ranges. It is not known if these later specimens were considered at the time the original production tally was made. If not, total production may be closer to 3000 than 2000. In any event, all or almost all went to Mexico, and the very few known to exist in the hands of US collectors necessarily either never went to Mexico in the first place, or were shipped there and then somehow managed to return.

There may be as many as a dozen or so specimens in the hands of American collectors, but only four or five seem to be above the horizon at this time. I am hoping that a discussion here may bring to light solid evidence of other 1946s/Mexicans whose existence is only rumored or considered theoretically possible at the moment.

As time goes by I am going to try to consolidate in this thread the most important points of information that have surfaced in half a dozen other Mexican threads on this forum in the last five years or so. I invite other collectors to do the same. I know there will be a certain amount of repetition involved, but there may be benefit in having it all piled up together in one place. I think this thread has the potential to be that place.

I gave this gun a complete going over with kroil, toothpicks, stiff nylon brushes and cotton swabs. Much of that effort was unnecessary, as the gun had already benefited from teardown cleanings by previous owners. I did manage to take care of a hitch in the single-action release that seems to have been connected with an area of solidified oil on the toe of the hammer. The SA trigger pull is now crisp and delightful at about 2.75 pounds. I can't wait to get to the range and test this gun out. I have no fears of shooting any value off it as it has already been shot quite a bit, as evidenced by the worn surface of the recoil shield and some hard-to-reach carbon deposits here and there. There is minimal endshake and rotational play. There is no push-off problem. I have long enjoyed the combination of postwar sights on prewar long-action revolvers and regard the Transitional .38/44 Outdoorsman as one of the best S&W target revolvers ever produced. I am looking forward to exploring the same set of qualities on this slightly smaller K frame specimen.

This is probably about a 90% gun, or maybe slightly more if the evaluator is in a good mood. There is muzzle and high point wear (necessarily including the top of the front sight :D) that indicate holster transport, and there is a pronounced turn ring. The blue is going to patina above the grooved portion of the backstrap, and there is some brown staining (but no pitting or anything I would call corrosion) on the grip frame underneath the stocks. The original stocks are long gone, and the ones on the gun now are numbered to a C or K prefix revolver from the mid or possibly later 1950s. Chambers and barrel are not damaged, with perhaps just a frosty spot or two that may go away with further attention.
 
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David, excellent monograph on this illusive model. Do you think these were originally equipped with service stocks?

Wouldn't it be something if a pre war K32 were to turn up with its ribless barrel and a return trip to the factory for a pre war flush mounted Micro -Click sight? With a K22/40, what a trifecta that would be! Sorry, just daydreaming for a minute there.

I doubt I'll ever have any information to contribute but I'll be following with great interest.
Thank you,
 
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David,
Having a forum member, like yourself, end up with this rare piece in your collection is marvelous! Many collectors may have acquired it and it would never be heard from again. You, on the other hand, are gracious enough to share it with us all. The craftsmanship that S&W used to build these shows up very well in your pictures.

I would assume that it is something that very few of us would get to see otherwise. Your detailed pictures and history are first rate too. I look forward to your compilation of the past information and , hopefully, any new information that you gather through this thread. Seeing your range report will also be something special.
 
David
A couple of things can you take a picture of the top of the barrel and what are the
pat. dates if they are on there. the front sight is it a 1/10 or 1/8 wide.
are they any marking on the side of the frame insp. numbers.
David it is possible that some of these could have been shipped with pre war style Magna,s I have a couple 38 Transitions shipped in 46 that had those grips. The checking is a little different than the Pre war ones.
Great gun and great post.
Jim Fisher
 
Jim, the front sight is a 1/8" blade. My picture of the patent date rollmark was too blurry to use, but I will rephotograph the gun later and get better pics up of the ones that aren't sharp.

The patent rollmark reads:

SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD.MASS.U.S.A.
PATENTED FEB.6.06.SEPT.14.09.DEC.29.14

The soft fitting numbers on sideplate, frame and yoke all agree: 79913. There is a fitter's mark "O" (capital O).

I managed to get enough sunlight under the ejector star this morning to see the number there, which matches the other serial number stamps on the gun. But this one actually has the S prefix where the other secondary stampings do not. Go figure.

I take your point about possible postwar use of prewar magnas that might still have been available in stock. I was going to look for a better fitting pair with a number in the low 800000 range stamped on them, but I may just go for some prewar magnas. I think I may actually have a set in the woodpile, so that may become today's quest.

EDITED TO ADD: By coincidence I was earlier today in conversation with Hondo44 about the style of hammer safety block used in revolvers of the 1920s and 1930s. That style was controlled by the patent of Dec. 29, 1914 and was first implemented in the 1905 fourth change revolvers in 1915. It is testimony to corporate inertia that the patent is still referenced on the barrel of a 1946 revolver that no longer employed that particular patented design; the more reliable drop-down hammer safety block had become standard in production revolvers in early 1945, replacing the hand-driven push-aside hammer safety block. These guns with the improved hammer block safety are the ones that carried the new S prefix in their serial numbers.

Just to indicate that I occasionally manifest situational awareness, let me note that the 12.29.14 patent award turns 99 today.
 
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Well David, you've done it again! You've found a super rare, elusive model that most of us have hardly heard of, then given your e-friends and e-fans a thorough education on an obscure piece of S&W history. Thanks for this and every time you share so freely!

Regards,
the Frog
 
This would be a perfect time to also echo what others have either said or implied.
This gun could NOT have gone to a more deserving person than you. You are such a gracious student of the history of S&W's and ALWAYS take the best pictures and always seem to go so in-depth on what they are and how they evolved. I was just sitting here pondering on what this forum would have known or seen if I had gotten this gun.
I don't have what you have..and I'm not even talking about the gun.
You always seem to have joy for others when they acquire a nice S&W.
Happy New Year...and THANK YOU.

Roger
 
David, thanks for sharing this wonderful find with us common folk. unlike the elusive 28-1 recently found, we knew this model actually existed but rarely seen. happy new year. lee
 
David

I did check the grips on my Mexican Model, and they are numbered to the gun.
They are the very early post-WW2 magnas with the sharp shoulder. As you know,
this gun did go to Mexico. I'd guess this is how they were made.

mikepriwer-albums-mlp12-picture11190-008.jpg


The patent date roll markings on mine are the same as yours:

mikepriwer-albums-mlp12-picture11189-007.jpg


And by the way, they clearly were not worried about the Y1.9K problem. Just the last two digits
of the year, forgetting about which century !

Regards, Mike Priwer
 
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. . . I take your point about possible postwar use of prewar magnas that might still have been available in stock. I was going to look for a better fitting pair with a number in the low 800000 range stamped on them, but I may just go for some prewar magnas. I think I may actually have a set in the woodpile, so that may become today's quest . . .

Just in case your woodpile doesn't come through for you, here is a pair that might work. Is 820038 low enough? I had been hanging onto them for that "special" one, but can't think of a more worthy recipient than your Mexican model. I'll be happy to send them to you for a trial fitting . . . just say the word.







Russ
 
David,
Good for you.
There are only a very few of the rare pre-war guns that I have never owned. The Mexican is one of them. When I had the money, there were none to be found. When one was available, I couldn't find the money! :D Sweet agony. ;)

Simple points of interest-
All contoured rear sights I've ever seen are numbered because they are buffed on the frame. After bluing, they need to go back to the same gun. Let that elevation screw down a few clicks and you'll see it "melt" into the topstrap, but I know you already know this.

It is not likely that any of those guns had small ejector knobs.

I doubt that any of them had any grips different from what Mike Priwer's gun has.




Jim, the front sight is a 1/8" blade.
Can you check that again?
It would be very odd since it is quite a while later that the Masterpieces got 1/8 sights.
Are you sure it is not 1/10"?
 
It's still 1/8". I even used a micrometer this time instead of just holding a tape measure up against it.

The gold insert is pretty close to 1/10", but it's not as wide as the steel in which it is set. It's even a little offset to the right side. Good thing they had that big adjustable sight at the other end! :D
 
Let me take care of a couple of delayed obligations here.

First, I owe a big time obligation to forum member and fellow collector linde for making available to me some postwar magnas numbered very close to this gun and situated right in the middle of the reported serial number range for 1946 Mexicans. These stocks would not have been on a Mexican originally, but they were certainly fitted to an M&P of the early postwar commercial era. Linde's post up above shows these fine stocks in detail, so I urge you all to look back up there for closer inspection. I have already told Russ what a perfect fit they are, and here are recent photos of the gun modeling its new shoes so you all can judge for yourselves.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/...2-f3dc-44e1-93ae-399788424b14_zpsc4d63408.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/...6-2654-420e-b77f-6170d9c0b4f7_zpsb6028948.jpg

Second, I promised Jim Fisher a better image of the patent dates on top of the barrel. Here's that image:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/...d-f333-4e34-801f-e42207074a10_zps72e55f33.jpg


I went back through the forum archives to dig up all previous threads that dealt with the 1946 Mexican. Here are the links to them. Note that there is a certain tentative quality to some of the posts, and sometimes assertions that are perhaps a little more aggressive than sober objectivity warranted, but that's the nature of this model. There is simply very little known about it. It certainly was a surprise to me, and I think to others as well, that there are .38 M&P Target Revolvers than can be considered "virtual Mexicans." These are prewar M&Ps that were fitted out with the new Masterpiece rear sights after the war as well as a taller front sight. They look a lot like Mexicans, but it is the grooved foot to the rear sight, and sometimes the shape of the ejector rod knob, that tells you they are not. I don't think these are forged or counterfeit Mexicans. I think some owners of prewar target revolvers simply wanted better sights on their guns and sent them in for a refit.

Threads mostly about real Mexicans:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-hand-ejectors-1896-1961/202186-who-has-seen-mexican-model.html (from 2011)

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...264368-what-value-1946-mexican-model-k38.html (from 2012)

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-hand-ejectors-1896-1961/265890-story-mexican-model.html (from 2012 -- excellent thread)

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...christmas-present-myself-year-maybe-ever.html (from 2013 -- my first attempt to post about this particular Mexican, and kind of weak because I rushed into it without thinking about what I wanted to do)

Threads mostly about "virtual" Mexicans:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...-model-38-target-just-sold-cabelas-999-a.html (from 2009)

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...rtual-mexican-model-1946-target-revolver.html (from 2012)

Later today I will post some info about Frank Jonas, the exporter to whom this particular Mexican was shipped in 1946.
 
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Just in case your woodpile doesn't come through for you, here is a pair that might work. Is 820038 low enough? I had been hanging onto them for that "special" one, but can't think of a more worthy recipient than your Mexican model. I'll be happy to send them to you for a trial fitting . . . just say the word.
Russ

I regret that I have but one like to give your post
 
Frank Jonas

M&P Target Model of 1946 No. S814910 shipped April 30, 1946, to Frank Jonas at his Wall Street address in NYC. Jonas was an established exporter of S&W firearms. This particular gun was the only item in a one-gun shipment.

Jonas is an interesting guy. He dealt in airplanes as well as firearms, and his company was named Jonas Aircraft & Arms Company. (Sometimes you see that as Jonas Arms & Aircraft, but I believe the first version is correct.)

Frank Sheridan Jonas was born in Jamaica in late 1886. He emigrated to the US in 1903, where he naturalized and married about 1907. In the 1930 and 1940 census records he is associated with the arms exporting business. Prior to those records he is found in Ellis Island records over a couple of decades as an arriving citizen on boats sailing from, among other places, Cuba and Brazil; I presume these records show he was traveling in connection with international business dealings, at least some of them probably on behalf of Smith & Wesson. At one point Jonas was S&W's largest exporting agent. He seems to have specialized in exports to Europe, but he is known to have arranged deals with African and South American recipients as well. Most of these agreements, I believe, would have involved governmental agencies rather than private enterprises.

The aircraft component of Jones' business is hard to document, but I have seen a copy of a 1942 Spanish-language ad for Piper Cubs available from Frank Sheridan Jonas and Son of New York.

In the 1940s Jonas had offices on lower Broadway in Manhattan as well as on Wall Street. It is not clear to me if he was in both locations at the same time. Perhaps the Wall Street address was for his accountant or attorney.

Jonas died in 1968, but the company carrying his name still exists. It is no longer located in NY but has locations in Georgia and Florida.

One of the company's last actions while Jonas was still alive, if I am reading the records correctly, was to receive from S&W for transmission to South Africa a contract run of Military & Police revolvers with PC stocks and lanyard loops. The guns chambered the .38 S&W cartridge with the then standard 178 grain bullet rather than the prewar 200 grain bullet; at that time the 178 grain round was still a standard chambering in Commonwealth countries. These guns, which appear to have been four-screw K-frames rather than three-screw guns, were designated the Model 11-4. (The rarely seen Model 11 revolvers are essentially the Model 10 constructed to chamber the .38 S&W round rather than .38 Special.) Jonas may previously have transshipped a smaller order of similar non-model-marked revolvers to Johannesburg or Pretoria, but I am still a little foggy on that point.

I recently acquired a Model 11-4 that I thought might have been handled by Jonas' company, but I will need to letter it to be sure. INFO ADDED: I now believe the 11-4 I mentioned did not go through Jonas. It appears to have been shipped in 1970 from retained stock, in which case S&W probably sent it directly to a receiving agency or business in, for example, Canada. Some Canadian shipments are recorded for this model, but there is at least one that went to an agency in North Dakota.

It's a little hard to know what role Jonas might have played in the distribution and marketing of the Model of 1946. The original contract and sale to Mexican authorities was arranged by Rex Applegate, who has occasionally been mentioned on this forum in connection with uncommon or custom revolver models. An archive search will turn up references for those who are interested. It appears that Applegate, who had good contacts in Mexico, had the Model of 1946 contract completely (or almost completely) under personal control, so it's hard to see what Jonas might have been able to do with the gun. Perhaps he was invited to see if there was a market for such a model in Europe or Africa, or possibly he asked for a specimen copy on his own initiative to evaluate its commercial potential on those continents. Whatever the truth that lies behind the shipment of this one gun to him, its potential foreign distribution outside of Mexico was seemingly never realized. Within two years the marketability of this hybrid target model was basically eliminated by the introduction of the new K-38 Masterpiece, whose first commercial distribution occurred in February 1948.
 
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