The Highwaymen gun buying scene

tenntex32 · Jan 3, 2021

I watched this movie recently and as an M1917 revolver accumulator this scene brought a big smile to my face.

I thought you guys might enjoy it too. On a sidenote we used to drive by Clyde Barrow's father's garage every time we drove to the family roofing office/yard on Singleton Blvd in Dallas Texas.

Dale

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hkcavalier · Jan 3, 2021

It was fun, but I doubt there was a gun store in America in the early 1930s with that kind of selection.

Valmet · Jan 3, 2021

Dear lord that Colt R-80 Monitor. What a weapon...

bigmoose · Jan 3, 2021

One of my favorite scenes. Great movie.

quinn · Jan 3, 2021

San Antonio may have come close. Lebmans Ranch Supply was reportedly the largest retailer of Thompsons in the country and according to the Colt factory provided many of those picked up after the St. Valentine's Day massacre. The company was located across the street from the Bexar County courthouse and did mail order business around the country. They also developed a fuly automatic 1911 which was submitted for Army trials. In 1934, G-men staged a raid of this source of arms to bad guys and were shocked to find a ranch supply store. I visited the store many times before it was torn down to build the new justice center. More evident in the front part of the store were displays of saddles and tack that they made--but b then they were no longer firearms dealers and gunsmiths. I can only imagine what it looked like in the 1930's or Pancho Villa's day. The family members that I knew rarely talked about those days.

SPEEDGUNNER · Jan 3, 2021

Great scene, great movie.

I'd "take 'em all" too, given the option!!

HenryT · Jan 3, 2021

Tips Hardware in Austin.

Doug44 · Jan 3, 2021

Now that would be fun.

BB57 · Jan 3, 2021

Alas...the days before the NFA of 1934.

The NFA of 1934 was published July 26, 1934. Bonnie and Clyde were shot May 23rd, 1934.

At :55 in the video, take a look at what is at the top of the catalog page. The illustration is a little crude, but it sure looks like the Gewehr 43, which makes it a pretty large continuity error.

tenntex32 · Jan 3, 2021

BB57, I tried not to pick the scene apart too much as I was just pleased the 1917 Smith and a few half-moonclips got a shout out.

I did think it was odd he asked for a black 1917 instead of saying blued. Also thought it was odd he asked for .45 lead instead of ball or fmj considering the auto and semi-auto platforms he purchased......not to mention the 1917 revolver typically grouping better with ball ammo.

But once again I tried not to pick the scene apart.

Xfuzz · Jan 3, 2021

Neat movie good scene.

My question:
How was the gun dealer paid ?

moosedog · Jan 3, 2021

Buys all them guns and didn't even get some free cases thrown in?

lazytrbar · Jan 3, 2021

FANTASTIC!!!!

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.357magger · Jan 3, 2021

BB57 said:
Alas...the days before the NFA of 1934.

The NFA of 1934 was published July 26, 1934. Bonnie and Clyde were shot May 23rd, 1934.

At :55 in the video, take a look at what is at the top of the catalog page. The illustration is a little crude, but it sure looks like the Gewehr 43, which makes it a pretty large continuity error.

The Feds went after Hyman Lebman in 1935 IIRC after fully auto 1911s and Winchester 1907s were traced from Dillinger Gang, Lester "Baby Face " Nelson, Homer Van Meter and organized crime in Cicero, IL back to him.

He was one of the first NFA prosecutions. Don't remember fully the verdict/outcome.

P.S. The Highwaymen is a great, fun movie, even if not 100% historical. I thought it was great that Barrow/Parker and gang were presented as the murdering sociopaths that they really were, instead of the Beatty/Dunaway fluff story from the 60s.

Jack Flash · Jan 3, 2021

tenntex32 said:
... Also thought it was odd he asked for .45 lead instead of ball or fmj considering the auto and semi-auto platforms he purchased...

I thought "lead" was supposed to be tough guy talk meaning "ammunition."

Bolstering this, didn't he quickly add "the same for 30-06." ?
Hard to believe he meant unjacketed lead projectiles for use in a BAR, if a gun store would even stock such rounds.

BB57 · Jan 3, 2021

Jack Flash said:
I thought "lead" was supposed to be tough guy talk meaning "ammunition."

Bolstering this, didn't he quickly add "the same for 30-06." ?
Hard to believe he meant unjacketed lead projectiles for use in a BAR, if a gun store would even stock such rounds.

I took "four cases of .45 lead" as meaning four cases of .45 ACP with lead round nosed bullets, but I took "same or the ought six" to mean just 4 cases. The scene would have been better if he'd have also specified a bullet weight for the .30-06 and whether he wanted ball/FMJ, AP, or a soft point.

BB57 · Jan 3, 2021

.357magger said:
The Feds went after Hyman Lebman in 1935 IIRC after fully auto 1911s and Winchester 1907s were traced from Dillinger Gang, Lester "Baby Face " Nelson, Homer Van Meter and organized crime in Cicero, IL back to him.

He was one of the first NFA prosecutions. Don't remember fully the verdict/outcome.

P.S. The Highwaymen is a great, fun movie, even if not 100% historical. I thought it was great that Barrow/Parker and gang were presented as the murdering sociopaths that they really were, instead of the Beatty/Dunaway fluff story from the 60s.

There may have been some popular support for Bonnie and Clyde early on, but it quickly passed and the general public just wanted them dead, which is what made it so hard for them to hide.

The Beatty/Dunaway version really white washed the story. Clyde had a lot more prior history than the movie showed, and the movie failed to mention many of their murders, and passed off some that happened as accidents or unintended actions, when that was not in fact the case. The producers tried to paint them as modern robin hoods who didn't intend to kill or rob from the poor, rather than as the cold blooded murderers they were.

I agree with you this movie paints them in a more accurate, and much less flattering light.

Flygas · Jan 3, 2021

The part of that scene that really made me cringe was the way they just gathered them up in a big armful, banging and scraping against one another.

quinn · Jan 3, 2021

.357magger said:
The Feds went after Hyman Lebman in 1935 IIRC after fully auto 1911s and Winchester 1907s were traced from Dillinger Gang, Lester "Baby Face " Nelson, Homer Van Meter and organized crime in Cicero, IL back to him.

He was one of the first NFA prosecutions. Don't remember fully the verdict/outcome.

My apologies for for any inaccuracy in my earlier post. Hyman was a close friend of my grandfather's and his pistolsmith. Most of my info came from interviewing his son some 35 years ag for 2 magazine articles that I wrote and cannot find copies of. I also interviewed other family members for the articles but as I said they did not get into too many juicy details. I do not think anyone served time over this deal.

Laketime · Jan 3, 2021

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