Smith & Wesson Regulation Police 38 S&W CTG, info please

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I bought this gun at a police auction back in the 1980s.
A friend has had it in his safe all this time & is cleaning out the safe & gave it back.
He gave me 25 rounds of ammo he had with it as well.

It's an old unique piece for a collector, but it is not pristine by any means.
Action is strong with very good lock-up, though.

There are 4 numbers but 2 are the same:
- 37096 x2 ( on the back of the cylinder & behind trigger guard on the front of the metal frame of the grip)
- 8973 x2 (on the yoke & crane)

Markings on gun:
- Left side of barrel = SMITH & WESSON
- Right side of barrel = CTG REGULATION POLICE 38 S&W
- Top of barrel = SMITH & WESSON SPRINGFIELD MASS U.S.A
- Top of barrel = PATENTED Feb.8.08 Sept.14 09 Dec.29.14
- Left side between above trigger guard & top of grip = SW Trademark Logo

Facts gleaned online:
- If the patent date is on the butt of the gun it is pre-war.
- The factory change order introducing that stamping the "Made In USA" was in 1922, therefore since this gun has that it should proceed 1922.
- .38 Regulation Police (pre-war) was an I-frame revolver made from 1917 to about 1940.
- The serial number range was from 1 to 54474
- .38 Smith & Wesson was a shorter and slightly larger in diameter case than the .38 Special.
- It was a predecessor round to the .38 Special.
- The .38 S&W is a low powered cartridge compared to the .38 Special.
- The .38 S&W used a lead bullet averaging 145 grains, was rimmed, had about 745 fps muzzle velocity,

Descriptors for this gun:
- Vintage small frame
- double/single action revolver
- chambered in .38 Smith & Wesson
- Features a blued finish,
- 4" barrel,
- forged round blade front sight,
- square notched rear sight,
- fluted five-shot cylinder,
- non-shrouded ejector rod,
- smooth .240" trigger,
- .240" hammer with knurled spur,
- five screw round butt
- "I" frame
- two-piece diamond checkered walnut grips

If you have any knowledge of the exact year of manufacture that would be cool.
Also, the range of value of the gun in this condition.
Thanks!
 

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A random correction, more on semantics since you have the facts, first: The .38 S&W was not a predecessor round to the .38 Special, although it did come earlier. They’re different diameters; this causes a lot of confusion. The .38 Special’s predecessor round was the .38 Long Colt.

Your gun is from the later 1920s, likely 1926/27. Anything more precise is not really meaningful without a history letter. Actual known ship dates are widely spread.
 
Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! Maybe I can expand a little from what Absalom has offered. Your legal serial number is the one on the front strap of the grip frame: 37096. Matching numbers should be found on the cylinder (as you note) and under the barrel where the extractor rod docks. If you remove the grips, the serial number should be penciled on the back of the right panel if they haven't faded away over 100 years. There are a couple of other places you will find serials but we'll skip them. The numbers in the yoke cut are assembly numbers used during manufacture.


The grips are round to square butt conversion and extension grips. Your grip frame is rebated (stepped) to merge seamlessly with the change in shape the grips provide. The .32 and .38 Regulation Police revolvers were never really significantly used by the police. But the grips are sort of an homage to the square butts of the military & police revolvers that were a staple of the law enforcement community at the time. They are also more ergonomic in enhancing the hand fit to the gun handle.


Real experts like Hondo44 will be along shortly to give you the "down and dirty" on your gun. Shoot it! They're a lot of fun.
 
A random correction, more on semantics since you have the facts, first: The .38 S&W was not a predecessor round to the .38 Special, although it did come earlier. They’re different diameters; this causes a lot of confusion. The .38 Special’s predecessor round was the .38 Long Colt.

Your gun is from the later 1920s, likely 1926/27. Anything more precise is not really meaningful without a history letter. Actual known ship dates are widely spread.

Thanks Absalom!
I found that statement online & hoped that if anyone saw incorrect statements would point them out!
Appreciate the date reference.
 
Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass! Maybe I can expand a little from what Absalom has offered. Your legal serial number is the one on the front strap of the grip frame: 37096. Matching numbers should be found on the cylinder (as you note) and under the barrel where the extractor rod docks. If you remove the grips, the serial number should be penciled on the back of the right panel if they haven't faded away over 100 years. There are a couple of other places you will find serials but we'll skip them. The numbers in the yoke cut are assembly numbers used during manufacture.

The grips are round to square butt conversion and extension grips. Your grip frame is rebated (stepped) to merge seamlessly with the change in shape the grips provide. The .32 and .38 Regulation Police revolvers were never really significantly used by the police. But the grips are sort of an homage to the square butts of the military & police revolvers that were a staple of the law enforcement community at the time. They are also more ergonomic in enhancing the hand fit to the gun handle.

Real experts like Hondo44 will be along shortly to give you the "down and dirty" on your gun. Shoot it! They're a lot of fun.


I'm not going to shoot it like I normally would.
I want to pass the 1/2 box of ammo I have along with the gun.
I intend to sell it when I discover what the range of value there is for the gun.

Thanks for the info about serial number & the grips.
 
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