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My friend has one in very good shape. What might be the demand and a selling price range?Thanks
Originally posted by opoefc:
All WW1 are left hand style, (worn on left side with butt to the front).
Originally posted by handejector:
Everything in the "old Army" is made for right handed people, or just happens to be universal. In 1917, sabers were still part of the TOE for the cavalry, which still existed. Therefore, the saber was the primary hand weapon for cavalry in close combat (per "the book"). The saber, worn on the left, was drawn right handed. The pistol, worn on the right with butt forward, could be drawn left handed and used for an immediate threat which could not be reached with the saber. I suppose you were supposed to hold the reins in your teeth!![]()
I have dealt quite a few 1917 holsters in recent years. Supply of really nice ones is down, and prices up. I usually see truly nice, COMPLETE WW I models priced at $175-250 at shows. The WW II model, while rarer, seems to have a much lower demand.
Originally posted by handejector:
Everything in the "old Army" is made for right handed people, or just happens to be universal. In 1917, sabers were still part of the TOE for the cavalry, which still existed. Therefore, the saber was the primary hand weapon for cavalry in close combat (per "the book"). The saber, worn on the left, was drawn right handed. The pistol, worn on the right with butt forward, could be drawn left handed and used for an immediate threat which could not be reached with the saber. I suppose you were supposed to hold the reins in your teeth!![]()
I have dealt quite a few 1917 holsters in recent years. Supply of really nice ones is down, and prices up. I usually see truly nice, COMPLETE WW I models priced at $175-250 at shows. The WW II model, while rarer, seems to have a much lower demand.
Hi Lefty,You will note that in this photo the Patton Saber is mounted on the right of the Mc Clellan. c.1917 and the 1903 Springfield on the left. More interesting though, this is an official U.S. Army photo used in an instructional guide for Cavalry to illustrate the proper regulation positioning of all accessories and weapons, but the manual stipulated that all NCO's were to bear sidearms, which are absent in this picture. That may account for the position of the saber shown.
Originally posted by handejector:
oldflatfoot said:Hi Lefty,You will note that in this photo the Patton Saber is mounted on the right of the Mc Clellan. c.1917 and the 1903 Springfield on the left. More interesting though, this is an official U.S. Army photo used in an instructional guide for Cavalry to illustrate the proper regulation positioning of all accessories and weapons, but the manual stipulated that all NCO's were to bear sidearms, which are absent in this picture. That may account for the position of the saber shown.
Interesting photo. Is it captioned? I believe that might be the "parade" or "inspection" or merely the transport positions for equipment, since both weapons are relatively inaccessible.
To be truthful, I don't really know if the Patton saber was worn on the belt at all. Patton wrote the saber manual in 1914, and changed many traditional ideas on saber warfare.
Originally posted by OFT:
The 1903 rifle is being carried with the butt in a bucket and the upper handguard has a retaining ring around it that is attached to the soldier's belt by a leather strap. The rifle had to be removed from the bucket before the trooper could dismount. Very clumsy arrangement.
Originally posted by oldflatfoot:
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