Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Revolvers > S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980

S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 3-Screw PINNED Barrel SWING-OUT Cylinder Hand Ejectors WITH Model Numbers


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-21-2023, 12:33 AM
45Smashemflat 45Smashemflat is offline
Member
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: Sep 2023
Posts: 533
Likes: 209
Liked 957 Times in 324 Posts
Default Model 38 flat latch?

Found an interesting model 38flat latch. Looks to have matching box and such. It’s not pristine, but looks in good functional shape. I use a j frame regularly(a 337) and I like the idea of the shrouded hammer on this older 38. Reminds me of my Dads old Colt Agent.

Anything specific to check out on these? Looks like I could get it for $850. Not sure it would turn into a regular carry piece, but I don’t want a paperweight either.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-21-2023, 01:45 AM
two-bit cowboy's Avatar
two-bit cowboy two-bit cowboy is offline
US Veteran
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: inthewind of ol' Wyo
Posts: 7,391
Likes: 18,221
Liked 19,656 Times in 5,380 Posts
Default

If it's stamped MOD-38 or MOD. 38 on the frame in the yoke cut it likely shipped between fall '58 and early '66.

The one thing to "look for" that would be off putting is a crack in the frame below where the barrel protrudes through the frame. You have to role out the cylinder to see that spot. See the photo of the Chiefs Special Airweight Model 37. A crack makes it a paperweight, albeit a light one.

Price might be a wee bit rich, but I sure don't see many of them.

Did you get the serial number off the butt?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg cracked frame on Model 37.jpg (85.3 KB, 73 views)
__________________
Wrangler of stray Chiefs
Bob

Last edited by two-bit cowboy; 12-21-2023 at 01:47 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 12-21-2023, 02:08 AM
Rpg Rpg is offline
Member
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Denver area
Posts: 6,325
Likes: 20,437
Liked 13,273 Times in 4,232 Posts
Default

I’m very fond of the Model 38. I believe they are the best pocket handguns ever made.

They are superior to the newer J frames built on the larger magnum frame. The larger frame is clunky in comparison. The older frame is svelte in comparison.

I’m not sure I’d pay that much for your example without examining it. Don’t imagine that the flat latch adds any value over the more common ones.

I think you’re looking at a $550 revolver.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-21-2023, 08:05 AM
45Smashemflat 45Smashemflat is offline
Member
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: Sep 2023
Posts: 533
Likes: 209
Liked 957 Times in 324 Posts
Default

Hmm, ok, thanks for the guidance!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-21-2023, 11:03 AM
two-bit cowboy's Avatar
two-bit cowboy two-bit cowboy is offline
US Veteran
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: inthewind of ol' Wyo
Posts: 7,391
Likes: 18,221
Liked 19,656 Times in 5,380 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rpg View Post
I Don’t imagine that the flat latch adds any value over the more common ones.
I heartily disagree.

The flat thumbpiece was used in the era when the Bodyguard (either Model 38 or Model 49) had their own unique semi-high horn stocks with a diamond in the center. The thumbpiece changed to the contoured style in February '66, and we see the last unique stocks in '68. When the serial numbers changed to a J+up to 5 digits in '69 so did the stocks -- to the standard short magna stocks worn by the Chiefs Specials.

The diamond semi-high horn stocks add at least $50 to the package, and to a collector so does the flat style thumbpiece.
__________________
Wrangler of stray Chiefs
Bob
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #6  
Old 12-21-2023, 11:18 AM
jeeps jeeps is offline
Member
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Southside
Posts: 920
Likes: 280
Liked 1,286 Times in 419 Posts
Default

I had a M-38 crack under the barrel .The Model 36steel frame does not crack like the alloy frames. The old Mod. 36 barrel was threaded in and pinned,a class well made wheelgun. That said I still have a M38 that is ccw ,but not a range gun and is shoots standard pressure 158 swc loads.

Last edited by jeeps; 12-21-2023 at 11:23 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-21-2023, 07:32 PM
45Smashemflat 45Smashemflat is offline
Member
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: Sep 2023
Posts: 533
Likes: 209
Liked 957 Times in 324 Posts
Default

I’ll work to put hands on it soon. Said to have correct box, tools, etc. Thanks for the tips on the cracks!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-21-2023, 07:42 PM
Model46 Model46 is offline
SWCA Member
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 113
Likes: 4
Liked 176 Times in 58 Posts
Default

I enthusiastically accumulated older J frame airweights until I learned of their propensity to crack. Once I learned where to look for the crack, I found that in my collection of seven guns, four where cracked including a Mod 38, brand new in the box! I divested of the cracked guns by disassembling and selling the parts (at a loss). The four that were not cracked were reevaluated and I sold two and kept a Mod 37 and a 38. They are rotated as cc guns but I actually prefer my Mod 49. All this being said, they are very light and easy to conceal. Shoot only mild loads, of course.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #9  
Old 12-23-2023, 11:05 AM
swagmeister swagmeister is offline
Member
Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch? Model 38 flat latch?  
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,083
Likes: 1,350
Liked 1,360 Times in 704 Posts
Default

As mentioned, look for the crack in the frame and just be aware that you should probably never shoot a +P round thru it I know some will say limited use of +P is okay but I personally would not chance it. Good luck.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WTB: flat latch thumbpiece nickel for 1955 kit gun, flat latch nut, & coil mainspring Göring's S&W WANTED to Buy 0 01-23-2015 12:18 AM
Flat Latch Model 30 forsyth793 S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 6 01-09-2013 08:28 PM
flat latch model 38 edw794 S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 1 11-13-2010 06:26 AM
Flat latch vs. modern (current production) latch aterry33 The Lounge 14 04-15-2010 07:51 PM
Need Thumb Latch Screw for pre-36 Flat Latch circa 1955 dunnyboy S&W-Smithing 2 02-14-2009 05:01 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:32 AM.


© 2000-2025 smith-wessonforum.com All rights reserved worldwide.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)