Kenneth L. Walters
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Anyone ever accidentally shoot a 41 Magnum in a 44 Magnum?
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Kenneth L. Walters
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If so, what happened?
Ultima-Ratio
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Well Ken, exactly the same thing as when I fired a .44 Mag in a .45 Colt!
The bullet took a hike from the main group and the extracted brass had an odd swelling chuckle!
The bullet took a hike from the main group and the extracted brass had an odd swelling chuckle!
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Kenneth L. Walters
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The reason I ask is that I have a slight problem. Somehow some of my fired 41 magnum cases got in to my bucket of 44 magnum brass. I think I've found and removed all of them but... I also went over all my loaded 44 magnum cartridges. Found two that looked just fine BUT were loaded with 41 magnum cases. The upper part of the brass where the bullet is just stretched out to the proper diameter. The lower part did not. I think I've found all of these but...
But at least you didn't experience a major pressure problem I gather.
But at least you didn't experience a major pressure problem I gather.
Deathompson
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I'll admit to it.... The funny thing is that the group was still semi decent.... Less recoil but it kinda messed up the cases... It did take a little thump to extract the cases...
akviper
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I did the same thing. I had a bag of old ammo that I thought was 44. I was firing my 329 when one round did not hurt and was much lighter in recoil. I ceased firing and had difficulty ejecting the case as it swelled to seal the chamber. Lucky me, neither the gun nor I was damaged and the case did not rupture.
I didn't think to check the ammo as I sold my 41s some 20 years ago and I thought I gave away all the 41 ammo. A stupid mistake on my part that I will not repeat.
I didn't think to check the ammo as I sold my 41s some 20 years ago and I thought I gave away all the 41 ammo. A stupid mistake on my part that I will not repeat.
DonD
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I'm amazed that the case neck didn't split when it had an oversized slug forced down.
Surprised you didn't get lead spitting from an off center round firing a slug off center into the forcing cone.
Glad you're all right.
Can't happen in my house, a .357 is pretty obvious in a .500 Mag chamber, the only revolvers I have! Don
Surprised you didn't get lead spitting from an off center round firing a slug off center into the forcing cone.
Glad you're all right.
Can't happen in my house, a .357 is pretty obvious in a .500 Mag chamber, the only revolvers I have! Don
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Kenneth L. Walters
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Originally posted by DonD:
I'm amazed that the case neck didn't split when it had an oversized slug forced down.
Doesn't happen. No problem seating the bullet whatsoever. That surprised me. Loaded cartridge doesn't even look all that odd.
You do, however, get two chances to realize that something is wrong. There is no resistance as the case comes out of the sizing die. That's the biggest warning. And there is a chance that the case will pop out of the shell plate as you try to seat a primer.
A friend of mine fired several 41 rounds in my 44 mag 94 Winchester. I thought they sounded funny when he fired them and the brass sounded funny when it hit the concrete. The cases were split, but no other damage.
Photog
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When I used to shoot some "combat" matches in the early 80's I used a 6" 29-2. My buddy used a 6" 57. We had a match where we were a team. You guessed it, we got the speed loaders mixed up a bit and I grabbed one of his by mistake.
I fired 6 rounds, noticed a lack of recoil and my shots keyholed. The brass split, but came out easily.
These loads were around 1000 fps, so not real hot.
I fired 6 rounds, noticed a lack of recoil and my shots keyholed. The brass split, but came out easily.
These loads were around 1000 fps, so not real hot.
fungunnin
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Here is a good one for you. 38 special in a 30-30 lever gun. These had a Win 94 chambered in 30-30 and 357 and idiot A picked up the 30-30 thinking he had the 357. Thank god they were shooting soft lead bullets. It just split the case but the chamber neck squeezed the 38 down to .30 cal .... kinda scary
Frank237
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Watched a guy on the range shoot an entire 20 box of .44 mag 240 gr factory rds through his 25-5 .45 Colt. NO problems....but poor accuracy.
I once shot .45-70's through what was supposed to be a .45-70 Trapdoor, but in reality it was a .50-70! Split cases and poor accuracy but again....no problems.
FN in MT
I once shot .45-70's through what was supposed to be a .45-70 Trapdoor, but in reality it was a .50-70! Split cases and poor accuracy but again....no problems.
FN in MT
blackhand
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I loaded a .41 mag case once while loading .44mag.The case ruptured and it was very loud. no one hurt though. it is an easy mistake to make!
I accidentally put a cylinder full of .44 Mags through my 625 .45 Colt MG once. They were .44 SPL level loads and shot fine. They all hit the paper at 25 yards but the group was more of a pattern. No harm done to the gun or the brass.
That's when I made a hard rule that .44s and .45s do not go to the range together.
That's when I made a hard rule that .44s and .45s do not go to the range together.
DeanD
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Just another case of you can never be too careful: I bought a box of .45 ACP that had one .40 S&W in it that I never noticed and I loaded it into a mag with .45's. It was held by the extractor and fired...kinda sounded like a weak fart and didn't operate the slide. That is when I found it with the case split.
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This is a DIFFERENT situation from your original question-
A 41 mag rd fired in a 44mag is usually not going to give a major problem because the bullet allows so much clearance, pressures will not go very high, so you will PROBABLY not have a catastrophic case failure.
With a 44 bullet loaded in a 41 case, you might not get off so easily. With the larger 44 slug sealing the bore, the high pressure might cause a CATASTROPHIC case failure.
I would pull those bullets!!!
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Weird. Exactly the same happened to me Sunday. One .40 S&W round out of a 25 round box of Remington Golden Saber .45 ACP HPs. Caught it before it made it into the mag.
Deathompson
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I don't see it... Obviously he needs to pull all the messed up cartridges that is a given. I don't think it would be catastrophic failure, as in extra pressure blowing something up. I could see some problem with gases blowing around/thru a ruptured case that may be very undesirable.
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