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03-09-2011, 09:34 AM
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Questions on Mod 60 Bobbed Hammer
I just picked up this non-pinned and non-recessed Model 60 that has a bobbed hammer. It was originally owned by a police officer. The serial begins with "ADZ" so I am thinking it was made around 1984. Did they have no-dash models then? It is stamped without a dash, but it looks as if there is not enough space to include one if it should have it.
Also, is it possible that it could have come from the factory with the bobbed hammer? I understand that S&W did make bobbed hammers for sale as a parts replacement, or could this be a ground down hammer? Looks like a well done job if it was ground on.
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03-09-2011, 09:54 AM
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You ADZ appears to be 1984 to me. The dash 1 was a 3" in 1972 and the dash 2 were NYPD DAO guns. The dash 3 came in 1988. Your no dash appears correct. As far as the hammer, what does it look like from the back side where the spur is missing? I have seen factory hammers that look like yours.
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03-09-2011, 09:56 AM
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Looking at the shape of the hammer, my guess is that it was not done by S&W. What does the part of the hammer that was ground away look like? Was it bead blasted or is it just bare metal that was polished? I do believe some of the early Model 60s were made with stainless steel hammers and triggers, so this is also a possibility.
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03-09-2011, 10:59 AM
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Looking at the shape of the hammer, my guess is that it was not done by S&W.
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This was my thinking also. I thought it would have a flat profile instead of the curved profile in the picture. Can the OP post the picture of the top of the hammer?
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I do believe some of the early Model 60s were made with stainless steel hammers and triggers, so this is also a possibility.
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I thought they were flash chromed (according to the SCSW). However, I am by no means an expert. Does anyone have a difinitive answer on this?
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03-09-2011, 11:01 AM
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Here are a couple more pictures of the hammer. It looks as if it could be stainless, not sandblasted, and definately polished to match the rest of the hammer.
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04-05-2011, 07:47 PM
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Vettepartz, nice gun you have. Does that hammer have enough surface left to cock it for single action fire? I'm considering a Model 60 for carry that I'd like to bob the hammer with enough surface to cock when firing at the range.
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04-05-2011, 08:50 PM
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This has no surface area left with which yu could cock it with your thumb for single action firing. I wish it did. But then on the other hand, there is nothing there that would snag on any part of your clothes if you were using it for concealed carry.
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04-05-2011, 08:59 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply. I think I've seen one that had a very small nub to cock.
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Vettepartz,
Can you start the hammer back with the trigger, grab it with your thumb, and pull it back to the single action notch? If you can, its not factory. A factory DAO would have the single action notch removed to prevent this.
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04-06-2011, 12:21 AM
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Do any of you know where bobbed or standard hammers are available?
Cutting off the spur of the original hammer isn't something I'd like to do if a suitable guinea pig part can be found so I purchased a Numrich part (298500) but it didn't work well due to binding and small but significant difference in the shape of the nose hammer. Are there any alternatives for a hack gunsmith like myself?
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04-06-2011, 05:20 AM
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Sonny - Yes, I can start it with the trigger and pull it back to latch for a single action type movement. Obviously, if the gun is loaded, that can cause a dangerous situation should you pull a little too hard on the trigger.
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04-06-2011, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonny Crocket
Vettepartz,
Can you start the hammer back with the trigger, grab it with your thumb, and pull it back to the single action notch? If you can, its not factory. A factory DAO would have the single action notch removed to prevent this.
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Maybe true with a Model 60 but my Model 64 has a factory bobbed hammer (as do most Brinks Specials) and it will cock into single action.
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04-06-2011, 06:17 AM
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Also, is it possible that it could have come from the factory with the bobbed hammer?...
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According to the Standard Catalog, S&W offered several product codes that included bobbed hammers. The profile of yours looks like the photo on page 222. It's probably factory.
I wouldn't worry about the fact that you can "make it" cock back. You never would do it on purpose (I hope!) and it isn't going to happen accidentally. On the other hand, if you want a full hammer they're cheap and a gunsmith could install it for you in minutes.
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04-06-2011, 06:57 AM
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I had a M60 with a gunsmith installed bobbed hammer. That was installed circa 1989 and later sold the gun...and the original hammer.
Currently have a M60 NY-1 with the factory bobbed hammer. Will take a photo a bit later today and post if anyone requests. Gun not with me presently.
Be safe.
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04-06-2011, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonny Crocket
Vettepartz,
Can you start the hammer back with the trigger, grab it with your thumb, and pull it back to the single action notch? If you can, its not factory. A factory DAO would have the single action notch removed to prevent this.
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What he said. Here's a picture of my M60 with a factory bobbed hammer and if you pull the hammer back it will not stay - no single action notch.
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04-06-2011, 09:08 AM
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This gun was shipped by S&W to Vance's - local armorer to most LEO's in central Ohio. I purchased this M64-8 new in the box and I am the first owner. It's a Brink's Special and has in no way been modified by either the store or me.
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