Are they chambered for .357 Magnum?
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What do you guys think of the 2 new S&W 9 mm revolvers?
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Are they chambered for .357 Magnum?
Cal44
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I'll get both if I can find the bucks.
How did you find that out ? That's great,it makes them both good shooters. I wanted to get the 5in. revolver -now i can go and give my LGS the money. He wouldn't order one until i paid.
Truthfully, I do not even understand the reason people are asking that question. Why in the world would S&W build a 9MM revolver with all of the resources and precision of the Performance Center and then purposefully bore the barrel to .357?
However since I saw that this question was being asked by numerous Forum members, I asked one of the engineers when we were shooting the new 986 revolvers last week
wildenout
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It seems I may be the only one here who thinks they're gimmicky...but I've adapted the notion of "there are revolver cartridges, and semi-auto cartridges and the twos don'ts mix" I can see if you want to have multiple guns and same ammo, I just don't feel the same. I'm sure this would be a great LE gun if'n they could still carry revolvers.
Kilibreaux
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I'm not sure they offer anything of practical value in the real world, but revolvers chambered for semiauto cartridges are always interesting and unique!
I wish S&W would make the J frame in a 9mm with a SHORT CYLINDER to match the cartridge which of course would mean an overall shorter gun.
625 Shooter
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Oh, you're not the only one. In other threads many have opined with dislike.
No need to rehash it here, but suffice it to say it isn't [necessarily] about having multiple guns with same ammo.
For example, no speedloader ever made can compete with moon clips when it comes to fastest reload time.
625 Shooter
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But how are they of "impractical" value?
Obviously, the long barrel may not be so practical for CCW. But with a short barrel (like the existing short-barreled M627 .357), why not?
I too would be interested in a J frame moonclipped 9mm. And I've never even been a big fan of the 9mm!
When S&W made the short cylindered .45ACP M625, they simply placed a shortened cylinder in the existing N frame and extended barrel into the frame window. Rather than design/manufacture a shorter J frame, I suspect they would do the same if they were to ever make a 9mm.
Second that!!!!!
smithman 10
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9mm revolver needs to be a J-frame
I've got zero interest in these two guns but a J-frame 9mm would be a big seller if they brought one back like the former 940 - never could figure out why they discontinued that model.
How about an air weight 9mm J-frame? That should be a hit with the concealed carry folks.
I like the fact these new revolvers don't require moon clips but wonder does anyone make speed loaders for them? But all said and done I doubt these two revolvers will sell in large numbers.
Bring back the 940 or a similar model, please, Smith and Wesson Then you'll sell some guns!
I've got zero interest in these two guns but a J-frame 9mm would be a big seller if they brought one back like the former 940 - never could figure out why they discontinued that model.
How about an air weight 9mm J-frame? That should be a hit with the concealed carry folks.
I like the fact these new revolvers don't require moon clips but wonder does anyone make speed loaders for them? But all said and done I doubt these two revolvers will sell in large numbers.
Bring back the 940 or a similar model, please, Smith and Wesson Then you'll sell some guns!
I'm not being argumentative, I am really interested.
Is that true for sure?
I shoot steel with .38 Specs in a 627, and have used moon clips and the Five Star Firearms speedloaders. I am not sure that I am not faster with the Five Stars because they hold the cartridges with a little less wobble.
chico1911
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Because, years back when they made the 627's in .38 super they used .357 barrels instead of .356 barrels on some batches. There were issues with cylinder throats as well.
S&WIowegan
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RichardC,
You should not have to suffer from wobbly moonclips. You can Google up TK Custom. Tom can make you moonclips that will fit the brass you plan to use. This generally will require to pick a brand you have the most of. Tom knows what thickness to give you. Of course it will cost money but what the hey!
You should not have to suffer from wobbly moonclips. You can Google up TK Custom. Tom can make you moonclips that will fit the brass you plan to use. This generally will require to pick a brand you have the most of. Tom knows what thickness to give you. Of course it will cost money but what the hey!
Nicksterdemus
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If they manufacture a J-frame w/5" brl I'm all over it. They would need to close the cylinder window instead of extending the brl though.
I like the looks of a seven shot L frame though it's a mite pricey for me. I'd probably opt for the Mod 69. Five shots is plenty.
I like the looks of a seven shot L frame though it's a mite pricey for me. I'd probably opt for the Mod 69. Five shots is plenty.
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chico1911
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I shoot revolvers almost exclusively in competition, about 15,000 rounds last year. Moonclips are much faster than speedloaders, there is less motion/effort required by the shooter. With moonclips you just need to get the bullets started toward the holes and the rounds go in clip and all. Depending on the speedloader there are other motions (ie time) required. The 5 star and HKS loaders require turning a know to release rounds, even the Safarilands (faster speedloader) require extra effort to push the loader against the cylinder to trigger the release of the rounds.
That said, when it comes to moonclips they are NOT all created equal! As others have mentioned clips made to specific brass is the way to go in all but the 625's. I use Heartco's in my 627's.
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I converted a 640 to a dual caliber gun with a 940 cylinder, and it is a tack driver in 9mm even with the original .357 diameter barrel. I spoke with a smith at S&W who told me that the 940 barrels were not .355 but .357 caliber and there were no problems. If there are accuracy problems with some of the .357 barrels out there something else might be going on...
625 Shooter
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What Chico said!
I too use Hearthco's. Great moon clips for the M627.
The M625? Not so picky about moon clips.
Are moon clips faster than speedloaders? No doubt about it!
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