Had a blast today shooting my new 642 snubbie. At 5 yards the shots went exactly where I wanted. Not sure if this is an issue or not but when I push the ejector to remove the spent shells they all didn't pop out so I pulled a few out by hand. My ruger 357 snubbie ejects all of the at once and very fast. Not a biggie but thought I'd ask here to see what you all think. Thanks
642 eject issue?
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J frames barely have enough ejector rod length to clear cases from the cylinder. Your Ruger does...
Rick_A
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If you have to make a swift reload you're already in trouble.
Pointing the gun up and a swift rap on the rod should get it done. If it's fouled or not struck hard enough it may be necessary to swipe remaining empties.
If you want more rod you need more barrel. Those 3" guns aren't popular for nothin.'
Pointing the gun up and a swift rap on the rod should get it done. If it's fouled or not struck hard enough it may be necessary to swipe remaining empties.
If you want more rod you need more barrel. Those 3" guns aren't popular for nothin.'
JAREDSHS
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usually on a fairly clean gun, the empties "fall out" with little effort.
Edmo
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Yes... Big trouble...
Technique, when it is time to eject empties point the nose skyward and smack down on the ejector rod. Between gravity and the smack the empty cases should fall clear.
Back to your question, the answer is still YES! If you are under fire and need to reload things aren't going good.
Edmo
ridgewalker
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I agreed with the methods above but will mention use the heal of your hand to push hard on the ejector rod with the barrel pointed vertically.
The fouling that builds up in the cylinder is difficult to clean out. Try brushing out the cylinder more with a bronze brush soaked in gun cleaner. I use a twisting motion turning the brush about 5 revolutions per chamber as well as a few straight through pushes. I use M Pro 7 Gun Cleaner and oil. If you get your chambers nice and clean your empties should eject easily.
The fouling that builds up in the cylinder is difficult to clean out. Try brushing out the cylinder more with a bronze brush soaked in gun cleaner. I use a twisting motion turning the brush about 5 revolutions per chamber as well as a few straight through pushes. I use M Pro 7 Gun Cleaner and oil. If you get your chambers nice and clean your empties should eject easily.
wantmoresmiths
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You may want to consider sending the cylinder out to be cut for moonclips. I have read posts, where other J frame owners prefer to have the gun already loaded with a moonclip holding all 5 rounds. That way when they eject the empties the weight of all 5 pieces of brass plus the weight of the moonclip helps empty the cylinder faster. In addition, you eliminate the risk of having one or two pieces of brass slip under the ejector star, thereby tying up the gun.
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My experience as well. None the less, the ejector rod is just a tad short for a "guaranteed" clean ejection. This superb handgun is perfect for what it does best; serving as either a BU revolver or a personal defense handgun comfortable for continuous concealed carry. It cannot replace a service size handgun.
Rich
Jim1392
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Remember you on a range shooting way more rounds then you would in a SD situation. Your cylinder will get dirty. When your carrying it for SD hopefully you have cleaned it well. When I turn my 642 over rounds fall out. Just keep it clean. Plus the odds of you getting in a shootout where you have to reload are slim.
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I would also add that the stock rubber boot grips can get in the way. I have found that Pacy or Houge grips are cut back farther and let the rounds clear easier. Just my .02.
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Some ammo ejects much better than others. The aluminum cased ammo is the worst. Nickel plated cases are the best, they tend to slide right out. Nickel has a certain amount of lubricity to it that other coatings do not. Remington Golden Saber and Speer Gold Dots have Nickel plated cases. Other do as well.
Buy some and give it a try, you will see the difference for sure.
Also keeping the chambers clean helps a lot.
Might consider having your cylinder cut for Moonclips...they make for smooth and quick ejection and rapid reloading.
Regardless, I must say I would hate to have to reload a revolver under stress. Especially the kind of stress that comes along with being involved in a gunfight! Probably doesn't get much more stressful than that. Though I don't have any personal experience with that situation.
Buy some and give it a try, you will see the difference for sure.
Also keeping the chambers clean helps a lot.
Might consider having your cylinder cut for Moonclips...they make for smooth and quick ejection and rapid reloading.
Regardless, I must say I would hate to have to reload a revolver under stress. Especially the kind of stress that comes along with being involved in a gunfight! Probably doesn't get much more stressful than that. Though I don't have any personal experience with that situation.
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papajohn428
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I use nickle-plated brass for all my carry loads, and even with a dirty gun they eject easily, given a smart rap with the meaty part at the base of the thumb, and if the gun is dirty I'll smack it twice in rapid succession. But keeping it clean and using nickle cases is the best recipe for success.
Jim1392
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Shame on them if they don't. I at least carry a speed strip with me. Sometimes also carry an NAA Pug Magnum in a pocket holster depending where I'm going. I know, it's not a great backup but at least it better then nothing.
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Problem is, once you've hit the rod's full length nothing much more can be accomplished. I am forever harping on my firearms students; "Don't pump the rod!" One push is all you get.
Rich
I have heard many times most "civilian" gun fights are over with less than 5 rounds fired.
Double-O-Dave
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My Model 642 is set up for moon clips (TK Custom), and I load it with moon-clipped rounds just for the enhanced ejection of the spent brass. This was when the 642 was my EDC. I've now switched to a different EDC: a Model 38-0 and a Model 638-1. I'm a big fan of the New York Reload.
Regards,
Dave
Doug M.
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I have seen stats from Tom Givens at Rangemaster in Memphis that make that a dubious stat upon which to rely*, but although the sources are credible folks whom I know, I would love to find that on his website so I could just post a link.
* Even if true of most, the others are not a small group, and your fight is a data point of one.
