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I bought a new s+w revolver.
when handling the revolver at the store I noticed the cylinder front had black rings around the shell cylinders. looked like a stainless does when you fire it.
I checked the barrel and it was dirty.
the store owner said this is normal because s+w doesn't clean revolvers after test firing.
is this right? s+w doesn't clean a revolver after test firing?
sounds screwy to me.
 
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Good day, purchased two new guns from S&W and both had been test fired and not cleaned. That I guess is to let you know as a consumer that it was test fired and gun is working.
 
Other SW I've owned which was mainly semi's had dirty barrel, but When I got my new model 60, I was looking in the box to see when the revolver was test fired and there wasn't spent casing in the box. I called SW and the rep said they aren't required anymore to test fire revolvers so that's why there's no spent casing. I asked him how did they know the revolver fired and there was nothing wrong with the firing pin or anything else? All I heard was crickets, I said Thank You! then hung up phone!
 
themoose7 said:
I bought a new s+w revolver.
when handling the revolver at the store I noticed the cylinder front had black rings around the shell cylinders. looked like a stainless does when you fire it.
I checked the barrel and it was dirty.
the store owner said this is normal because s+w doesn't clean revolvers after test firing.
is this right? s+w doesn't clean a revolver after test firing?
sounds screwy to me.
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Correct. They shoot 3 rounds. Not exactly caked in mud. They don't clean because it would take too much time to clean each gun.

bigpappa160 said:
Other SW I've owned which was mainly semi's had dirty barrel, but When I got my new model 60, I was looking in the box to see when the revolver was test fired and there wasn't spent casing in the box. I called SW and the rep said they aren't required anymore to test fire revolvers so that's why there's no spent casing. I asked him how did they know the revolver fired and there was nothing wrong with the firing pin or anything else? All I heard was crickets, I said Thank You! then hung up phone!
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The intent was not to show the gun worked. It was for the gov to be able to trace your gun. How did people know the firing pin was ok before? How would you know any gun is ok since almost none include a spent case

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First S&W revolver l purchased NEW in 1970 had been fired.. Three of

its five cylinders ringed.. Last on purchased NEW in 2014 had 3 cyls ringed too.

Looked at a NEW 629-6 @ Gradys in Anderson, SC just the other day..

lt had three ringed cyls too...IN A ROW!! Never seen that before...

btw...They don't send guns out with spent cases now..
 
Cleaning guns is over rated.

Let me say that again... cleaning guns is way way way way way way way way way --WAY-- over rated and nowhere near, not even approaching NEARLY as necessary as the lion's share of gun owners think, feel, do, or constantly preach.

And more guns are damaged or otherwise "lessened" from over zealous cleaning (and poor cleaning techniques) than from neglect.

Since corrosive priming went away, a gun is not in any particular danger of trouble by having a few shots through it and left "uncleaned." Certainly not two or three, as is the normal proof-load and fired-case procedure at S&W.

Gun owners should wipe down their guns and store them properly in a climate controlled environment. And they should shoot more and clean less.
 
Since the beginning of time, EVERY S&W revolver is fired 3 times before it leaves the factory. They are NOT cleaned after. The same is true of every firearm manufacturer in existence. They may not fire 3, maybe just two. But they all ship right after firing without being cleaned. You name the gun, that is the way it comes.

Do you see the empty brass shell that comes in a little yellow envelope in every new firearm box with a test date and inspector name and number? That is the case from one of the test rounds fired from the gun in that box. It is the law, that is the ballistic fingerprint for that gun.
 
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Bobbysixkiller said:
My new 69 didn't have a test round in the box. Maybe the dealer took it. Idk. It had been fired 3 times. Also the only one I've bought new that didn't come with a fired case.
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Same deal with my 69-no fired case. Mine was pretty clean coming out of the box, at least nothing that hot had gone through it.
 
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My new 69 didn't have a test round in the box. Maybe the dealer took it. Idk. It had been fired 3 times. Also the only one I've bought new that didn't come with a fired case.
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A few states used to have a requirement that new guns sold in the state had to provide a fired case that the bureaucrats could put in a database to solve crimes (like a gun fingerprint.) Firearm manufacturers included a case with their guns, and I believe dealers in those states that required it would forward the case to the authorities when the gun was sold. The rest of us got the fired case along with the gun.

Reports are that none of these collections of fired cases ever solved a single crime in any state. In any event, all states that had 'em have now abandoned the case collection process, and the gun makers no longer provide the cases with new guns.
 
SW test firing and shipping

Arik said:
Correct. They shoot 3 rounds. Not exactly caked in mud. They don't clean because it would take too much time to clean each gun.



The intent was not to show the gun worked. It was for the gov to be able to trace your gun. How did people know the firing pin was ok before? How would you know any gun is ok since almost none include a spent case

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The gun can also be traced by you doing the transfer paperwork!!! Also, I was talking about my experience with the guns I had in the past! Can you answer the question on why SW doesn't send a spent casing with the revolvers? If so, let the gentleman know that ask the question!
 
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The gun can also be traced by you doing the transfer paperwork!!! Also, I was talking about my experience with the guns I had in the past! Can you answer the question on why SW doesn't send a spent casing with the revolvers? If so, let the gentleman know that ask the question!
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Yes but the idea was that if the cops find a shell casing at a crime scene they can run it against shell casings in their database thus finding the owner and going from there. I don't think too many transfer paperwork is left behind at crime scenes. Now, in theory, cops have a starting point. The original owner may have sold to to a store which sold it to someone else....etc... but there is a starting point. In theory. Now it didn't work out but that was the reason.....IF only shell casings are found the fun can still be traced. It turns out that none of this worked and it was a colossal waste of money. And since those States that required a casing no longer do there is no need for manufacturers to send one.

Tracking through paperwork only works if they have a gun. (Which happened to me in February)

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No maker ships a fired case anymore, since the one state that required it dropped the law requiring it.
Been that way for at least a year, going on two.

Millions were spent by that state in buying & maintaining the system that included storage of all those empty cases, and not one single shooting crime was solved, so the state finally came to its senses & killed the law & the program.

As for test firing, a colleague at work bought a brand new S&W revolver many years ago & made the mistake of just dropping it in his duty holster without personally test firing it.

In those days, you could get hired first & go to the Academy later, which he did.
Worked the streets for several months & was horrified to discover at the first Academy shoot his Smith would not fire.

As we all know, sometimes things get out the factory door that shouldn't get out the door.
Denis
 
Since 1950 all major gun companies have fired 3 rounds to test revolvers and 5 rounds to test semi auto guns. If the gun company then cleaned the gun you would pay an additional $25.00 per gun. If the gun is clean at the gun store someone has been playing with that gun. Very common sight in stores with gun ranges.

The spent case that uses to come with your new gun was there to comply with the Massachusetts firearm tracking law. All guns had to be fired 3 times and the cases collected. The idea was that now each spent case had unique marks like a finger print. If the gun was used in a crime in the future and a spent case was recovered the case and gun could be matched to the one previously on file and the owner questioned. The cases were packaged in envelopes with gun information. One case was kept by the gun company, another was sent to Massachusetts or if the gun was going to New Jersey then NJ got it which them sent it to Mass which has the database computer and a third went to the gun owner

Massachusetts spent 50 million on a program that never solved a crime. Even after discontinuing the program they are looking at millions in future expenses since all those that worked on the program were state employees eligible for pensions.
 
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