The description. A black frame. Stainless unfluted cylinder, slab sides of barrel, hammer, trigger and release. I owned one once and have the chance to do so again. The seller claims only approximately 200 were made this way. Is this a true statement? If so, would the serial number CMC0068 put it in that time frame? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Pretty much all Performance Center revolvers are rare

My memory is bad and I have no idea what box the rest of my notes are packed in . . . I HATE Moving

I refer to this revolver as a semi-pinto. Mine has a set of adjustable LPA fiber sights on it.

These were a Distributor Exclusive for AccuSport in 2004. The total number ordered was either 130 or 160. I would need to find my old notes to know for sure

About a decade ago this revolver had a second fluted black cylinder that is chambered for 9x23 Winchester fitted to it.

So now I can also shoot the 9MM family of cartridges in the revolver. Just this year, I set up a 627 V-comp with a 9x23 Winchester cylinder. I had the notion of shooting pins again

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mokuloa, a member of this site, has written a detailed article on PC 627s for the S&WCA Journal (published in 2012).
According to the article, the product code is 170249, both fluted and unfluted models were made.
As for the FLUTED cylinder version of the 627, "Reported 25 Made" is stated in the description.
But no production number of the UN-fluted cylinder model is mentioned.
The article does state that the "CMC" serial prefix was used for both variations.

First, I thank you both for the info. The model I had also had LPA sights with a fiber optic front. It also had the JM style grips. It looked exactly like your picture. The one I am bidding on has regular adjustable rear and gold bead front with Ahrends combat grips. I am trying to be sure that it is not just a worked 627 pc.

Also, I too have heard them called pintos. Do you know where this originated?

I believe it came from the pinto horse. A pinto horse has a coat color that consists of large patches of white and any other color.

Traditionally a Pinto is a blued revolver with a nickel cylinder and barrel

As to where the term came from . . .

The Spanish word Pinto (which means "I paint" ) was applied to the black and white horse many years ago, also the brown and whites

A Reverse Pinto is a nickel revolver with a blued cylinder and barrel

I call my 627 a semi-pinto because the barrel is only partially silver

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I just picked one up that is exactly as yours is described with a CMC serial number less than 20 away so I would say it's original. I bought mine as a "oddly refinished" gun only to find out it was completely stock and just so unusual that neither I nor the seller had a clue. The info that I got from colt_saa indicated a product code of 170294. Mine shows some likely holster related black finish loss but is otherwise perfect. Sweet shooter for sure. Dreadful picture attached.

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Thank you all again! JKN, you have just pushed me into the all in frame of mind. Although now I need to empty the safe a little. To me it is worth my CZ Shadow 2 Black and Blue and my new Beretta 92x Centurian. Both ANIB. I just need to find buyers or buyer. Again, thank you all!

The one I am bidding on doesn't even have a turn line.

I purchased mine on GB about a year ago. It came complete with aluminum PC case, tools and paperwork. SN CMC0108. It appears unfired to me. Turn lines don't appear as quickly and don't standout much on polished ss. Not the original stocks. It came with Altamont round but stocks from the factory.

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GeorgeD,
It is not a reworked 627! I have a 627-5 just as you describe with a high polished fluted cylinder, gold bead front sight, Ahrends stocks and stainless cylinder release. Also the cylinder retaining screw is stainless. It's S/N is in the CMRxxxx series. I purchased this new some years ago, as a special order, and at the time the sales clerk told me they wouldn't do that for me again, since they could get them through their normal distributer cheaper. I haven't seen any others for sale. This is one I haven't shot. I would be curious as to how many were manufactured. Perhaps I'll get it lettered.

Here’s my rare 627 PC pinto

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I have never seen a snub. Beautiful!!

The 2 5/8" Model 627s and 629s are current cataloged items. Your dealer can order them for you

The 2 5/8" 657s are no longer manufactured

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It’s not factory. The satin finish wasn’t wearing well so, being a fan of pintos, I had H&M black nitride the cylinder, ejector and cylinder release.

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New question. I am currently winning the auction at $960. How much higher would you fellas go without box and papers?

That would be my limit. No more than 1k.

It depends on how much you want it (and of course your budget), but a pre-lock (edit to add - is it pre-lock?) N frame PC gun will probably go for more than $1K. Good luck on the bidding.

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Good morning Alan. No, it is not pre-lock. I do not believe that any of the slab sides models are. Are there any?

I thought the first model to hold 8 rounds was the last without a lock.

The 8 shot, 357 Magnum, N-frame revolver was introduced in 1997

Locks did not start appearing on Smith & Wesson revolvers until quite some time after Saf-T-Hammer bought Smith & Wesson in May of 2001

So you have somewhere around 4-5-6 years of production before the lock hit the 8 shot, 357 Magnum, Model 27/327/627 family of firearms

There are at least many thousands of the pre-lock 8 shot, 357 Magnum revolvers in the market place, probably tens of thousands

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My advice? SLOW DOWN. There’s been a firearms market for a loooooong time, and it’s unlikely to go away anytime soon. Time is on your side.

I would’ve done a ton more research before I started bidding near $1K ... Jumping straight in with both feet without looking is a good way to get taken. I know it’s exciting to get in there and bid, bid, bid - But, if you don’t know when to stop bidding in the first place ... Well, let’s just say that it’s easy to get caught up in the moment and pay more than you should have. Ask me how I know. LOL



Slow.

Down.


Even if you don’t get this one, there’ll be another come along. I promise.



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Bumpus13, Thank You first off! A little history. I owned one of these that I bought new in2004. Not realizing how limited they were I sold it for relocating funds. It was, and still is, the most accurate firearm I have owned. My CZ Shadow 2 is very close. Anyway, this is the first one I PERSONALLY have seen for sale since. They are like 4" 327PD's. People just don't let them go.

Are you shoulder carrying that beast?

Who made the holster and how well does it carry?

I carry a glock 26 with 2 mags in a glaco miami classic and it is very comfortable, and I would love to carry my 657 that way but I have been worried it would feel like a lop-sided boat anchor.

The holster under the revolver looks like the Miami Classic from Galco

It will be somewhat lighter than carrying a steel Colt Commander in a shoulder holster. I always use the tie down on the weak side and have never had a balance issue

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