New to me model 19-5 6" barrel

Bear007 · Apr 16, 2023

Hi all, new to the forum.

I was given this beauty yesterday by my older sister, she said her hand is too weak to hold or shoot it any more. She's 72 y.o. with hand problems. Someone just gave it to her about 20 years ago. Pictures below.

(from the box)
S/N AJP7xxx
Product Code 100710
Spec Op. 6007

So if my research today is correct, according to the Spec OP code 6007 it was factory tested on Jan. 7th, 1986. The 4 digit code stamped under the grip is "4747" which, again, if I understand this correcty, is it's ship date being 747 days from the start of 1984, which is Jan. 16th, 1986. It makes sense so far. In all the crazy 3 letter serial number list the only category it fits in is "Nov. 1984 AEV-ARJ", it doesn't have an ending date or year for this sequence.

What I'd really like to understand is what the Product Code signifies??? Any help with this would be appreciated.

It has the trigger stop added which was an add on according to a note from S&W in the box and an order/shipping form from S&W in Feb 1987 with the trigger stop on it.

I am guessing here that "The Pachmayr GRIPPER" are a custom change by an owner before my sister.

I put a few .38's through it today just to see how it shoots. At 15 yards single action seemed spot on. We won't talk about my double action skills at this time.

I'm new to revolvers and need some trigger time for this.

Sevens · Apr 17, 2023

The product code is basically S&W's "SKU" and each of the Model 19's they offered around that time had it's own unique product code.

You might e-mail S&W with your serial number and ask what date THEY associate with it. There is often a discrepancy between the date they serialized the frame and the date they shipped the firearm.

Sevens · Apr 17, 2023

I forgot to add that yes the Pachmayr rubber grip is an aftermarket addition. Back when this revolver was made, Pachmayr had the largest market share of replacement rubber grips over everyone else in the business and S&W offered only wood stocks. This 19 likely would have shipped with Goncalo Alves Target with speedloader cutout.

You can find a set of these if you wish to make the revolver appear closer to original but before you do, refer back to that end label on the box. If it says "TS" than yes, the Goncalo Alves Target. If it says "CS" then it's possible they had Magna stocks. I would think anything other than target stocks would have been an anomaly on a 6-inch barrel.

Bear007 · Apr 17, 2023

Thanks Sevens, the box indeed says TS. Not real worried about making it original at this time or the date, I feel Jan 1986 is close enough. It's not going to be a safe gun, it will be more of a shooter for me at the range and on my side in the woods as a backup during hunting season. I've got a black bear that's been hanging around my stand the last few years. I also thought it possible to take a deer with it if it were close enough and I got better shooting it in double action ... practice, practice, practice, but I'm not pushing this.

After your explanation of the product code I'm not worried about that either. It's on the box label - Barrel 6", Finish Blued, Stock TS. It's all there.

The only thing left is where to find a Parts Schematic ... other than all those poor quality bootleg copies on Ebay, I'm not paying them a dime. It would be nice to know where to get a legit copy or PDF for the 19-5. I find it a little strange that there is nothing on the online Support section on the Smith & Wesson website that I've found so far but I know that document exists somewhere.

Again, thnx for all the info.

Sevens · Apr 17, 2023

Will this work?

Smith & Wesson 19-3 Revolver Parts, Schematics | Numrich Gun Parts

Bear007 · Apr 17, 2023

Sevens said:
Will this work?

Smith & Wesson 19-3 Revolver Parts, Schematics | Numrich Gun Parts

It will work in the interim. There is a Numrick diagram for the 19-5 also. I was hoping to find a copy of the actual S&W diagram and parts list with the 4 digit part numbers though I don't know what the document is actually called. But there are some horrible photo copies of it on Ebay.

In the meantime the Numrick copy will work.

Thnx

Sevens · Apr 17, 2023

What I'd really like to understand is what the Product Code signifies??? Any help with this would be appreciated.

According to the fantastic Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson 4th Edition by Supica & Nahas, the product code of 100710 is a 6-inch, blued, target stock, square butt made from 1984 to 1989, it also says 39 oz which seems like an odd notation, not sure why they added that.

This book also says that the 19-5 debuted in 1982 and the changes from the 19-4 include:

eliminate cylinder counterbore and pinned barrel. Small change in cylinder length to 1.62" with elimination of recessed cylinder

I cannot recommend this book enough, it's fantastic. If you are looking for a shop manual that has more info than I can possibly digest (myself) then search for Jerry Kuhnhausen, his manual is without equal and it is on the 5th Edition I believe.

Bear007 · Apr 17, 2023

^^^^^

Wow Seven! Lots of good information. Thanks

snw19_357 · Apr 18, 2023

Bear007 said:
...though I don't know what the document is actually called.

They're called the

Bear007 said:
It will work in the interim. There is a Numrick diagram for the 19-5 also. I was hoping to find a copy of the actual S&W diagram and parts list with the 4 digit part numbers...

Unfortunately by that time they were using 9 digit part numbers and only showed item numbers on the diagram. They were soon after replaced by the 'typical revolver' manuals.

Here are the diagram from a LSI 19-5 but at least some of the part numbers are outdated, for example 5002, 4550 and 4552 are for a 19-4 (4747 is not a code like the Spec Ord)

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