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Im quite curious, but are boot grips just combat grips but chopped down at the bottom? I ask because Im experimenting with a high grip slightly over the back strap of my L frame and I’ve just noticed that grips with an exposed back strap allow me to have a great deal of trigger control but my fingers are so high that the entire bottom finger groove is untouched.
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Yes, but different manufacturers may vary in appearance.

The two photos are Chiefs Specials (J-frame) with grips by Uncle
Mike's. First shows boot grips, and the second combat grips.
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Some are large, some medium, some small. Then some are gigantic, equal to a # 8 cast iron skillet or that's what I thought of when I shook hands with Bill Jordan.

Parts of the hand vary in size, long fingers, short ones and on & on.

Revolver grips vary in size, material, design and features.

One of the most important things in the equation of becoming a shooter.

Selecting grips for your revolver is very personal. Folks can recommend brands, styles and materials to you but you have to go through trial and error to find what works for you.

It may cost a dollar or two before you find the right one for you.

It's is why there is such a wide variety of makers & manufacturers
in the grip business. Folks & Shooters are constantly seeking the perfect grips.

Good luck in seeking what works best for you.
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A grip that feels good in the hand before pulling the trigger is a start. Still how it feels and controls the revolver is the proof of the pudding. I have some that pass the former test but miserably fail the later.
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I thought I’d be done after getting some uncle mikes combat grips and getting such a big improvement. I just that in day fire choking up on those wooden grips my trigger pull is almost straight back without having to try much. I’ll have to give some boot grips a shot and see how it plays out on the range.

I am a bit apprehensive about gripping so high though. I end losing contact of the grip with the lower half of my palm.
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High on the backstrap is usually a good thing for double-action shooting.
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High on the backstrap is usually a good thing for double-action shooting.
Do you know of a grip that is angled a bit more straight back like sp101 or king cobra grips vs the much more curved grip on s&w’s?
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Im quite curious, but are boot grips just combat grips but chopped down at the bottom? I ask because Im experimenting with a high grip slightly over the back strap of my L frame and I’ve just noticed that grips with an exposed back strap allow me to have a great deal of trigger control but my fingers are so high that the entire bottom finger groove is untouched.
It sounds like what you're calling "combat grips" are full-size grips with finger grooves. Boot grips may or may not have finger grooves and come to the bottom of the grip frame. They're also narrower than full-size grips.

What you're finding with your experimentation is what most folks find - the higher you can grip the revolver, the easier it is to shoot double action. Mass-production finger groove grips tend to position the hand lower than ideal. Hogues aren't too bad in this respect, but Pachmayrs IMO place the hand too low.

For me, grips without finger grooves work better because I can place my hand(s) where I want to. They end up at the top of the back of the grip frame and on K/L/N frames my pinky is partly hanging off the bottom. On almost all my S&Ws, I'm using Craig Spegel Boot Plus grips which come down about 1/4" below the grip frame to support my pinky. (I'm not rich, I bought them all second-hand about 15-20 years ago before he got as popular as he is today.) Only a couple of them have a finger bump, and it doesn't bother me.

If you want to experiment, Hogue offers a hard nylon K/L frame grip which you can dremel the grooves off of to see how you like it. They also offer their wood grips with one or no finger bumps.
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I will have to try that too. I’m about to seemed down some Altamonts to play around.

Edit: is there such a thing as nylon bantam grips???

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I got both kinds of grips for my bedstand J frame. I had the combat grip on it but I don't have small hands. I opted to try something different after some years. I got Pachmayr full sized Grippers for J frame. This fills my hand better and I find it points quicker and more naturally. Concealment is not an issue or I might have kept the boot grips on it. I wish I kept the 3 inch barrel J frame I used to have, though, for this job.
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I have found the Altamont grips a little on the narrow side, better for smaller hands. On most J frames I find the standard magna's with a Tyler or BK adapter to work for mt (smaller hands).

I wish I could remember where I found these grips, I did have to "reshape" the base a little, but really fit my hand for double action shooting.
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I like those wood grips. Unique shape. I am curious where you got them too lol
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