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I have been following all the posts, mostly about the problems. Currently there are not many posts. I would like to hear from some of you that have purchased more recent builds. Are you having problems like the older guns did? Would you buy again?
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My 632UC was picked up a couple of days ago and seems fine. There was some very tiny piece of plastic inside (like a sliver of a plastic label maybe) and it was a bit dry. But I blew it out and put a small drop of mineral oil here & there and closed it up. Sights seem good to me.

I drove my wife nuts snapping the hammer on some snap caps last night couple of hundred times, but it seems good so far.

Planning on shooting it later today. I think I will like this little revolver.
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I purchased my 432UC fairly early on and have had no problems with it whatsoever. I have not opened it up but probably should. To be honest, I haven't shot it very much since the rounds I purchased are $1a piece! It's a very well executed little gun.
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Purchased a new 632 UC yesterday, Observed absolutely no issues in lengthy pre-purchase inspection. Fit, finish, barrel, forcing cone cut and gap, and sights all looked excellent. Was the first person to handle it out of the box and the trigger pull was very good, close to my well broken in original 632 Airweight. I should note that the display gun that I inspected looked just as good, We shall see how it shoots after I pick it up in 3 days.
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Yes I would buy mine again despite having to send it back to S&W due to a misfire issue due to light strikes. It worked fine with Federal primer but misfired five or six percent with CCI primers. I have several other 32 H&R chambered S&W revolvers and I’ve never had a problem with any of them. You may have read the post about this problem.

For me this is the perfect pocket pistol. Not too heavy or light, snag free, sufficiently powerful cartridge, and an extra cartridge compared to a 38spl. I am having a hard time not calling S&W daily to check on a return date. When it finally comes back, I’ll function test it and return it to be my primary pocket every day carry revolver.
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I got mine (UC632) in the middle of May. Overall, the gun is great, and I really like it. I have shot 20 rounds so far and everything works like it's supposed to. It is fairly accurate, but the coarse sights don't lend themselves to shooting small groups. The sights are fine for the intended purpose.

The front night sight was DOA. I called S&W and they sent me a new night sight that works. It took a few minutes to install.

I'm not shooting it any more until I get a Crimson Trace CT350G laser grip for it. CT cannot tell me when I can get it, the grip is long since paid for. Ammo is expensive. I will shoot it more after I get the CT grip and sight it in. I will not carry it until it's set up the way I want, and function tested. After all that, I can give a final report.
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I have posted at least twice before on this gun, once when I first got it and again today. A lot of thought went into the development of this series from Lipsey's. I as well as many of you read about the process and those involved. IMPO these are one of the best thought out and configured snubbies ever produced. There are so many important features such as no lock, chamfered charge holes in the cylinder, the grip shape, the highly visible front, Big Dot Sight and an improved trigger right from the factory.
The 632/432 has 6rds instead of 5 on the 642/442 .38sp. which I like. It's also easier to shoot with pretty impressive penitration/ wound channel statistics. Me like a bunch!
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I have been following all the posts, mostly about the problems. Currently there are not many posts. I would like to hear from some of you that have purchased more recent builds. Are you having problems like the older guns did? Would you buy again?
I have had my 632UC for a couple of months - about 200 rounds with no problems.
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Mine has been 100%. Absolutely would buy again.
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100% for me so far at about 100 rounds on my one month old 632 UC. Very controllable and accurate with fast fire.

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Im the interests of research and because I like .32 calibre, I finally bought one 3 weeks ago. Same kind of slop that S&W has become famous for in the past several years. The double action was not right, lighter than normal but indistinct. Frame/yoke gap was better than the hideous ones I've seen (and other one in the LGS case), but by no means what is correct. Just typical of what S&W puts out these days with airweight J frames: nothing special or with even the slightest bit of concern about appearance or function.

For all the "Ultimate" marketing, it's sold in the S&W cardboard box which indicates a bottom-tier product for them. After shooting, the double action became rougher, rather than improved. Shooting also indicated that the barrel shroud was canted just enough (1-2 degrees) to cause 1-1/2" of windage deflection at 7 yards.

I compared the bluing and anodizing to my 2010 Model 431PD and the new one is not nearly as nice, and the laser etching on the new one is atrocious - nearly impossible to read the serial number on the butt, and the shroud markings nearly invisible. The older "plain jane" 431PD had stylish "lightening" cuts in the backstrap and trigger guard... the new 432 makes no attempt at attractive appearance.

I spent 4 hours working on it. Fixed the double action and was surprised by the complete lack of any fitting, or even polishing of the rebound slide. No hammer or trigger bosses on the sideplate either, and the pins weren't set correctly.

I considered merely moving the rear sight for windage since it is dovetailed into the modified frame - but no wrench was included to loosen the lockscrew in the sight, and upon attempting to do with a proper tool, found it was tighter than a duck's rear end. I used a Kroil soak, pressure and some heat - carefully as the frame is aluminium and VERY thin under the sight - to no avail. Rear sight apparently NOT designed to be user adjustable. With frame blocks and appropriate pressure, I was able to carefully move the shroud 1-2 degrees, and after shooting it confirmed POA was now dead-on out to 25 yards.

I was not sending this one back, after that the disasters of the last two brand new S&W revolvers I had to return, in 2022 and 2023. Your chances of getting it back repaired, or without a new defect, is a crapshoot. As an armorer, I figured I could attempt repair myself. Attempting to rotate the barrel shroud is not for the faint of heart and not recommended.

On a positive note, the front tritium dot was fully bright, and not off-center. The sight picture is also very fast, and accurate enough for 25 yard shooting. I was pleasantly surprised that the front sight also features luminous paint, which creates a very bright - albeit temporary - front dot. The actual accuracy was quite good.

The nice sight picture comes with the tradeoff that the sights will more readily snag in a pocket draw - the entire point of a DAO shrouded hammer design is to have a snag-FREE draw from a pocket. The tall sights also make finding a proper safe holster difficult - I had to wet-mould and modify a leather IWB favorite. The front sight drags on the normal sight channel, and the built up rear sight prevents full holstering so the trigger is partially exposed.

The grips are hideous in a tragic trifecta of function, feel and appearance, and counter-productive by any informed opinion of how small revolvers are fired, carried and used. I removed them as soon as possible, and tried both stock service wood panels and the original Uncle Mike's boot grips. Both of the latter were completely fine. Even the cheapie synthetics that S&W puts on it's other J frames would have been an improvement.

It is just typical of this model that the "features" are designed around bells and whistles to generate sales, most of which are of questionable or non-existent value, or contradictory to one another. Meanwhile, quality of manufacture, assembly and inspection are ignored as per usual at S&W.

I would not order one sight unseen, and even with amount of personal inspection you would be allowed at an LGS, you might not detect some problems only evident in shooting. After correcting the issues noted, I'm satisified with it, but it was not a seemless journey from out of the box to that point.

The same day I bought a new Colt Viper and for an extra $100 the quality is night and day. A sad statement if you prefer S&W revolvers. Your chance of getting a error-free new Colt revolver far exceeds that of a S&W.
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I bought my 632 in July. 300 rounds later its been flawless. I changed the grips as the factory grips were ok , but I pocket carry this. I put on an old set.of Hogue mono grips. Much better for pocket carry.
The fit and finish on mine looks perfect although I have to admit I am just looking at it and shooting it. I don't give my guns full NASA type instrument testing with gauges and measuring devices.
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As another recent 632 buyer, I'm well satisfied. The very first one I saw in person passed both visual and mechanical inspection. It shoots well. I'm used to either Hogue Bantam or the S&W rubber stocks, the VZ grips got pulled. Having been on many night shoots at Ft. Benning "back in the day", I find even the single tritium dot quite useful.
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Im the interests of research and because I like .32 calibre, I finally bought one 3 weeks ago. Same kind of slop that S&W has become famous for in the past several years. The double action was not right, lighter than normal but indistinct. Frame/yoke gap was better than the hideous ones I've seen (and other one in the LGS case), but by no means what is correct. Just typical of what S&W puts out these days with airweight J frames: nothing special or with even the slightest bit of concern about appearance or function.

For all the "Ultimate" marketing, it's sold in the S&W cardboard box which indicates a bottom-tier product for them. After shooting, the double action became rougher, rather than improved. Shooting also indicated that the barrel shroud was canted just enough (1-2 degrees) to cause 1-1/2" of windage deflection at 7 yards.

I compared the bluing and anodizing to my 2010 Model 431PD and the new one is not nearly as nice, and the laser etching on the new one is atrocious - nearly impossible to read the serial number on the butt, and the shroud markings nearly invisible. The older "plain jane" 431PD had stylish "lightening" cuts in the backstrap and trigger guard... the new 432 makes no attempt at attractive appearance.

I spent 4 hours working on it. Fixed the double action and was surprised by the complete lack of any fitting, or even polishing of the rebound slide. No hammer or trigger bosses on the sideplate either, and the pins weren't set correctly.

I considered merely moving the rear sight for windage since it is dovetailed into the modified frame - but no wrench was included to loosen the lockscrew in the sight, and upon attempting to do with a proper tool, found it was tighter than a duck's rear end. I used a Kroil soak, pressure and some heat - carefully as the frame is aluminium and VERY thin under the sight - to no avail. Rear sight apparently NOT designed to be user adjustable. With frame blocks and appropriate pressure, I was able to carefully move the shroud 1-2 degrees, and after shooting it confirmed POA was now dead-on out to 25 yards.

I was not sending this one back, after that the disasters of the last two brand new S&W revolvers I had to return, in 2022 and 2023. Your chances of getting it back repaired, or without a new defect, is a crapshoot. As an armorer, I figured I could attempt repair myself. Attempting to rotate the barrel shroud is not for the faint of heart and not recommended.

On a positive note, the front tritium dot was fully bright, and not off-center. The sight picture is also very fast, and accurate enough for 25 yard shooting. I was pleasantly surprised that the front sight also features luminous paint, which creates a very bright - albeit temporary - front dot. The actual accuracy was quite good.

The nice sight picture comes with the tradeoff that the sights will more readily snag in a pocket draw - the entire point of a DAO shrouded hammer design is to have a snag-FREE draw from a pocket. The tall sights also make finding a proper safe holster difficult - I had to wet-mould and modify a leather IWB favorite. The front sight drags on the normal sight channel, and the built up rear sight prevents full holstering so the trigger is partially exposed.

The grips are hideous in a tragic trifecta of function, feel and appearance, and counter-productive by any informed opinion of how small revolvers are fired, carried and used. I removed them as soon as possible, and tried both stock service wood panels and the original Uncle Mike's boot grips. Both of the latter were completely fine. Even the cheapie synthetics that S&W puts on it's other J frames would have been an improvement.

It is just typical of this model that the "features" are designed around bells and whistles to generate sales, most of which are of questionable or non-existent value, or contradictory to one another. Meanwhile, quality of manufacture, assembly and inspection are ignored as per usual at S&W.

I would not order one sight unseen, and even with amount of personal inspection you would be allowed at an LGS, you might not detect some problems only evident in shooting. After correcting the issues noted, I'm satisified with it, but it was not a seemless journey from out of the box to that point.

The same day I bought a new Colt Viper and for an extra $100 the quality is night and day. A sad statement if you prefer S&W revolvers. Your chance of getting an error-free new Colt revolver far exceeds that of a S&W.
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