Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Ammunition-Gunsmithing > S&W-Smithing

S&W-Smithing Maintenance, Repair, and Enhancement of Smith & Wesson and Other Firearms.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-24-2010, 09:17 PM
GypsmJim GypsmJim is offline
Member
Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,337
Likes: 22
Liked 5,694 Times in 2,006 Posts
Default Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling

I had thought that I was getting some flaking of the nickel, but a closer inspection revealed what looks like a slight buildup of lead on the end of the cylinder, between each flute.

The gun was drilled and tapped for a scope, though it was removed and the open sights are back on. One of the empty screw holes on the top of the frame (covered on top by the rear sight) is directly above the lead spots. Not sure if that makes any difference.

The gun shoots flawlessly with exceptional accuracy.

My question: Is there a solvent that will help remove the lead without harming the nickel? A finger nail does not seem to do the trick.

PS - the inside of the chambers and the barrel look fine.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-24-2010, 11:34 PM
Alk8944's Avatar
Alk8944 Alk8944 is offline
Member
Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling  
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Sandy Utah
Posts: 8,846
Likes: 1,636
Liked 9,158 Times in 3,637 Posts
Default

Regardless of whether the gun was factory D&T (round end rear sight) or after-market, get some plug screws and plug those holes. You are also getting high pressure gasses blown through the holes and being deposited under the rear sight, which can cause other problems eventually.

What you are seeing is a result of powder gasses and the associated Carbon, Graphite and Lead carried with them being reflected by the hole resulting in a distinctly round spot of fouling on the outside of the cylinder directly under the front hole. All revolvers will foul in this area, but without the hole the spot will be more fan-shaped.

Don't get too concerned about cleaning this, it will just come back every time you shoot the gun, and it causes no harm unless you get over-enthusiastic about cleaning it. Fine Bronze Wool with a good solvent or CLP type oil will do well, just don't work too hard at getting it perfectly clean. Nickel is softer than bluing believe it or not! If it were a blue gun I would recommend 4-ought steel wool, but not on Nickel.

This is one area that a very find polish like Simichrome, Mother's, or similar can be useful, but ALL polishes are abrasive to a degree, that's why they work, so don't over do or use too often. Even toothpaste could be used.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-25-2010, 07:40 PM
GypsmJim GypsmJim is offline
Member
Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,337
Likes: 22
Liked 5,694 Times in 2,006 Posts
Default

Thanks for the tips. I'll get some bronze wool and some set screws.

Just looking for a solvent to help it along a bit. A search located "Shooter's Choice Lead Remover". Will that harm the nickel?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-25-2010, 07:49 PM
bountyhunter bountyhunter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,862
Likes: 1
Liked 460 Times in 228 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GypsmJim View Post
I had thought that I was getting some flaking of the nickel, but a closer inspection revealed what looks like a slight buildup of lead on the end of the cylinder, between each flute.

The gun was drilled and tapped for a scope, though it was removed and the open sights are back on. One of the empty screw holes on the top of the frame (covered on top by the rear sight) is directly above the lead spots. Not sure if that makes any difference.

The gun shoots flawlessly with exceptional accuracy.

My question: Is there a solvent that will help remove the lead without harming the nickel? A finger nail does not seem to do the trick.

PS - the inside of the chambers and the barrel look fine.
Pro shooters taught me the best solvent for dissolving lead is a 50-50 mix of white vinegar and hydrogen peroxide. It worked great on my compensators. I don't guarantee it is safe for nickel.

One thing I use for cleaning cylinder tubes is a .40 NYLON bore brush on a 3" cleaning rod and a hand drill. Dip the brush in chrome polish or suitable cleaning material and spin inside the tubes. In stubborn cases I cut a thin strip off a scotchbrite pad and wrap it onto the brush.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-25-2010, 07:51 PM
max's Avatar
max max is offline
US Veteran
Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling  
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: illinois
Posts: 6,127
Likes: 1,869
Liked 6,807 Times in 2,142 Posts
Default

Flitz and elbow grease will do it.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-25-2010, 07:52 PM
bountyhunter bountyhunter is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,862
Likes: 1
Liked 460 Times in 228 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alk8944 View Post
This is one area that a very find polish like Simichrome, Mother's, or similar can be useful, but ALL polishes are abrasive to a degree, that's why they work, so don't over do or use too often. Even toothpaste could be used.
The finest polish I know of these days is the polishing compound they label as "clearcoat safe". That stuff was about as abrasive as cottage cheese.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-26-2010, 11:11 AM
GypsmJim GypsmJim is offline
Member
Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling Nickel Model 19 Lead Fouling  
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,337
Likes: 22
Liked 5,694 Times in 2,006 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by max View Post
Flitz and elbow grease will do it.
Wow! I guess so. Yes, it took a litle rubbing, but not really that bad. My cylinder is now 100%. It even shined it up. I used the black spot on the cloth to lightly go over the rest if the gun and it looks like new now.

Thanks for the tip.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
fouling, model 19, scope, scotchbrite, solvent


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lead fouling desertratr Ammo 23 02-28-2017 06:30 PM
Lead Fouling Zocko S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 26 06-15-2016 08:37 PM
14-2 With Lead Fouling? otisrush S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 11 06-25-2015 09:08 PM
Removing Lead and Powder Fouling on Nickel Cylinder? rags The Lounge 10 08-28-2009 10:14 PM
copper/lead fouling raycat S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 7 01-22-2009 01:51 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:35 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)