How serious is a ringed barrel?

Murdock

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A few months ago I had a squib load in my Brazilian M1917 while firing in rapid DA mode. So, just like Elmer Keith warned many years ago, if this happens it's not possible to stop in time to cancel the stroke on the next chamber.

I was shooting 5.0 grains of Bullseye under a 200 grain cast SWC. The squib had no powder, just a primer. (Turns out that the power measure in my old Lee progressive press was skipping now and then, with the powder disk not always sliding back into place). Anyway, felt recoil and the report of the second round was normal (at least through my muffs).

When I opened the gun to inspect it, I didn't immediately notice anything wrong. When I cleaned the gun I noticed that the patch wasn't sliding smoothly all the way through, and with no powder residue in the bore I could discern the ring. It appears to be immediately forward of the threaded area, essentially just at the location where the barrel abuts the frame. There is no visible change to the exterior of the barrel, nor can I feel a bulge. Accuracy is not affected.

Replacement barrels are very hard to locate. I have obtained a Brazilian barrel made during WW2 when it was apparently difficult for the Brazilians to get them from Smith as replacements for their 1937 contract guns. I just don't like it, although the quality seems excellent.

With much time, handwork and cogitation, I can fit a new 4" barrel for one of the "Classic" guns that have come out in recent years, but I would miss the look of the old gun's 5.5 inch barrel, and I don't care for the shape of the front sight on the one I located.

Should I just live with the the old barrel, and the constant reminder of my faux pas, or is there a safety issue of which I should be mindful which overrides other considerations and demands a barrel change?

Thanks for any insights you may choose to offer.
 
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There's no definite answer to this.
Much depends on the ammo you shoot. As example, hot loads are going to be much more "iffy".

In most cases, unless it's a bad bulge you can safely shoot the gun.
In many cases, accuracy isn't even degraded much.
I'd suggest shooting standard load ammo, no hot stuff, and watch the barrel closely for signs of cracking.
 
I'm with dfaris.............it's not a "major" ring, just a small bulge. I ringed a Marlin rifle barrel the same way years ago and it not only wasn't an issue, some days I swore it shot better.

I'd just shoot it with soft loads, and not worry about it.
 
The question that comes to my mind is: What if one wanted to shoot hot loads? Are you now limited to soft loads only?
It seems to me that there is not a definitve answer to the question concerning - is the gun safe?
Blessings
 
The question that comes to my mind is: What if one wanted to shoot hot loads? Are you now limited to soft loads only?
It seems to me that there is not a definitve answer to the question concerning - is the gun safe?
Blessings

Simple prudence says you now have a damaged, compromised gun. Shooting hot loads would be pushing it, probably a little too hard.

Whether it's safe depends on many factors, which will vary from gun to gun.
A bulge in a relatively low pressure .45ACP is quite different from a hot load in a .44 Magnum.
Each gun is a case unto itself, and has to be judged as an individual.
In the end it's a pure judgment call.
 
The question that comes to my mind is: What if one wanted to shoot hot loads? Are you now limited to soft loads only?
It seems to me that there is not a definitve answer to the question concerning - is the gun safe?
Blessings

One of the answers to this is that if one wants to shoot hot loads, one perhaps should not be shooting a Brazilian or old 1917 in the first place. Hotter loads in a Model 25 or modern 1917 would not worry me as much, but I shoot nothing stronger than modern standard ball ammo in my Brazilian. Standard seems stout enough to me.
 
Thanks for the replies.

This is just a fun old gun to shoot, and hot loads are not an issue. I have other hardware for hot stuff, if I need it. Standard or even soft loads are fine.
 
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