Fireclean is Vegetable Oil?

CH4 · Sep 15, 2015

Engine49guy said:
I just dip my guns in the old french fry oil that the local Mcdonalds tosses out behind the dumpster every night,
Cost is totally free and your guns have the sweet aroma of French fried potatoes when your at the range...
The occasional free french fries that are hiding in there are just another perk.

Hows that for environmentally friendly ?

Me too! Had every homeless person and neighborhood dogs chasing my cop car! Tried Hoppes and every redneck was asking me out for dinner. Finally settled on Mobil 1 0-30, now I can shoot 200 mph without worrying about sludge.

Pef · Sep 15, 2015

Daniel W. said:
I think you have a misconception of where I'm coming from. I never said a word about them ripping people off or doing anything unethical. I do love the prospect and find it extremely interesting that many supposedly advanced, high tech gun care products are really just common readily available non-toxic products. Hoppe's #9 oil is just mineral oil, nothing more, nothing less and it works, but if I like and use Hoppe's oil, I can buy a bottle of USP mineral oil at the pharmacy(which is actually also better) for a fraction of the price, so why wouldn't I let others know the truth?

Something like making your own Coca-Cola is a little more complicated and involved than that and perhaps Fireclean is as well, but if I like and use Fireclean and if it's just a matter of literally buying a couple of vegetable bottles off the grocery shelf and mixing, I'd do and recommend that instead. I like saving money and non-toxic products and this Fireclean supposedly works well, so I would be thrilled to find out it's actually nothing more than a simple, easy to make blend.

I see where you're coming from, and thanks for elaborating. My read of the patent, and my educated guess, is the FC formula is a mixture of several types of vegetable oils. It's likely difficult to reproduce in the exact proportions, however, and I have no clue how varying the proportions affects overall performance.

So yes, if it were as simple as that, then by all means (subject to any patent rights FC may procure). But that's the trick - trying to come up with the formula.

For the life of me, I don't know why this story has such legs. Fireclean, and other products, are vegetable oil based. It was no secret to someone that was even mildly curious, as FC has a published patent application.

Now, if you'll all excuse me, I'm going to grab the bottle of Evian water by my bed and take a sip before I go to sleep.

CCantu357 · Sep 16, 2015

I have never heard of this Fireclean until now. Cooking oil is much too thick and sticky for firearms. What was ever wrong with CLP, Hoppe's, or the ever great RemOil?

Mister X · Sep 16, 2015

CCantu357 said:
I have never heard of this Fireclean until now. Cooking oil is much too thick and sticky for firearms. What was ever wrong with CLP, Hoppe's, or the ever great RemOil?

Nothing in terms of performance. Some folks(myself included) are looking for safer, less toxic alternatives that will work just as well.

Stratajema · Sep 16, 2015

John R said:
I use good old synthetic 5W-30 motor oil, works great and it's cheap compared to buying gun oil.
A quart of Mobil One last a long time.

The atmospheric pressure in an engine is different from the one your gun is in. Motor oils have maximum lubrication properties when in the atmospheric pressure of your engine. Engine oil does not meet the military spec requirements for oil use on guns. In addition, in independent tests, motor oils have performed poorly in rust prevention compared to some high-tech gun oils.

The most widely used gun oil and grease by military forces and government agencies is the one that is rarely mentioned in these consumer-centric forums. It is Mil-Comm.

And for handguns one should mostly be using a mid-viscosity grease rather than an oil. On my Shield, I only use oil sparingly in "hard to reach" places that are known to rust, such as under the rear sight and on the magazine catch area inside the magazine well.

Llando88 · Sep 29, 2015

Interesting.

I pulled my FS9 out of the safe yesterday.

The barrel and hood were sticky and the action was a bit sluggish.

I'd cleaned it after the range session 9 August with Fireclean, and left it in the safe.

Is anyone aware of long term effect on Fireclean while being stored?

My VP9, shot last Friday, and cleaned after, is fine.

Rule3 · Sep 29, 2015

Be sure to use Extra Virgin Olive oil, it has a higher burn temp than regular old canola oil and is good for you. Smells nice too!

Heck, all the no stick pans are a form of Teflon and most all snake oil has PTFE (Teflon) so keep it all in the Kitchen.

Guys in the lounge love to post food and guns threads so go for it!

Actually the MSDS does not say what it is.

http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/M...ING CONDITIONING OIL, 2 OZ. - C67_default.pdf

FireCLEAN Defends Product, Publishes statement on "CanolaOilGate" - The Firearm Blog

GatorFarmer · Sep 29, 2015

The Italians actually were apparently using olive oil as a weapons lubricant in North Africa in WW2, supposedly to good effect.

Peter M. Eick · Oct 2, 2015

Working in the oil industry I am constantly amazed at how expensive gun oil is. We can sell you 42 gallons of light sweet shale oil that is so clean out of the well it looks like honey for about $44 today. Basically a buck a gallon. It has the consistency of thick kerosene to diesel depending on the formation and well with no refining.

What sort of pixie dust do these companies buy that takes it from a buck a gallon to many bucks per onz?

Even high grade synthetic motor oil is only $2 a quart.

"Walks off shaking his head...."

Llando88 · Oct 4, 2015

Llando88 said:
Interesting.

I pulled my FS9 out of the safe yesterday.

The barrel and hood were sticky and the action was a bit sluggish.

I'd cleaned it after the range session 9 August with Fireclean, and left it in the safe.

Is anyone aware of long term effect on Fireclean while being stored?

My VP9, shot last Friday, and cleaned after, is fine.

Anybody? At all?

Hapworth · Oct 4, 2015

Llando88 said:
Anybody? At all?

Did you thoroughly clean and degrease your FS9 before applying the Fireclean? If not, that might explain the residue -- Fireclean has to be applied to a surface that has no other solvents or lubes, and be kept that way.

Some have reported a much lesser gumminess on firearms that have sat unused for half a year or more after Fireclean was correctly applied, and that it was taken care of either by firing or applying a small amount more of Fireclean.

Llando88 · Oct 6, 2015

Hapworth said:
Did you thoroughly clean and degrease your FS9 before applying the Fireclean? If not, that might explain the residue -- Fireclean has to be applied to a surface that has no other solvents or lubes, and be kept that way.

Some have reported a much lesser gumminess on firearms that have sat unused for half a year or more after Fireclean was correctly applied, and that it was taken care of either by firing or applying a small amount more of Fireclean.

Thanks.

No, I didn't. I'd previously used FL on this pistol.

I guess I'll take it to the range and blow out the cobwebs lol.

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