Ejector Rod thread direction?

[Oldbird13]

Ejector rods thread are either left or right threaded. Can someone tell me if there was a certain time that they changed over from right hand threaded to left hand threaded. Jerry Kuhnhausen’s shop manual states “ Intermediate and older S & W ejector rods are right hand threaded”. Thanks

 

[armorer951]

More info here.....see post number 8

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...html?highlight=extractor+rod+direction+change

 

[Alk8944]

About 1964 as I recall. Look at the knurling on the extractor rod, (revolvers don't have ejectors!) If the knurling and smooth sections run together then the thread is right-handed. If there is a narrow smooth section separating the smooth part and knurled the thread is left-handed, regardless of when the gun was made.

 

[Oldbird13]

More info here.....see post number 8

http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-re...html?highlight=extractor+rod+direction+change

Sorry, I just quoted from the manual where Jerry Kuhnhausen referred to the part as “ejector rod”. I can understand why that part might be called both extractor and ejector.

 

[BC38]

Sorry, I just quoted from the manual where Jerry Kuhnhausen referred to the part as “ejector rod”. I can understand why that part might be called both extractor and ejector.

Yeah, different manufacturers call some of the parts different things. For example what S&W calls the YOKE Colt calls the crane. Other examples are ejector/extractor rod, stocks vs grips, etc.

Some people get really hung up on those kinds of things. Most don't.

 

[Oldbird13]

After posting the question above and seeing some of the replies, I started thinking about eject vs. extract. Doesn’t eject mean to push something out and extract mean to pull something out? Accordingly, I would tend to agree with Mr. Kuhnhausen’s description of that part. Never met him but he seems to have been quite a knowledgeable and respected gunsmith.

 

[series guy]

Smith and Wesson calls them “Hand Ejectors” as a result I have always heard the part called an ejector rod.

 

[stu1ritter]

The folks who work on the guns all the time tend to use the nomenclature that is found in the S&W parts manual, from which they have to order parts from the S&W parts folks and everyone has to speak the same language. The parts book calls it the extractor rod and the part it screws into is the extractor.

Stu

 

[glowe]

Some folks that work on guns call parts all kinds of names never used by the company in the era of the manufacture. Smith & Wesson only used the term Hand Ejector on the Model 1896 and 32 Hand Ejector. You will find no other model named "Hand Ejector" by S&W.

I compare the term ejector and extractor in shotguns and find that any mechanism that opens and removes the cases from the gun have ejectors, since they eject the case. They are often called auto-ejector models. Extractors work in such a way that they only push up the spent cases and you always have to manually extract them from the chambers.

If one opens the cylinder and holds a S&W revolver in an elevated position, the cases always all fall out of the gun because the length of travel of the star is longer than the casing. Problem is that the part containing the star and base section of the rod was called the extractor by the company!

 

[armorer951]

As everyone knows, my memory is not as sharp as it used to be .....but I've never seen the word "ejector" used to refer to the extractor rod in either of my Kuhnhausen's S&W manuals.

By the way, does anyone here on the forum actually know Jerry Kuhnhausen? I presume he has passed, but I can't find hide nor hair of him on the internet.

 

[DWalt]

With several exceptions, mainly revolvers, nearly all guns have both an extractor and an ejector which are separate. The function of an extractor is to pull a fired cartridge case (and sometimes a complete cartridge) from the gun’s chamber. The function of an ejector, which is a different mechanical device, is to propel the extracted case or cartridge some distance away from the gun. The case Is first extracted and then ejected. For most revolvers, the ejection of a fired case is performed principally by gravity. I have always considered the term “hand ejector” to be logically inconsistent when used to describe a revolver. It should really be called a “hand extractor.”

 

[Oldbird13]

As everyone knows, my memory is not as sharp as it used to be .....but I've never seen the word "ejector" used to refer to the extractor rod in either of my Kuhnhausen's S&W manuals.

By the way, does anyone here on the forum actually know Jerry Kuhnhausen? I presume he has passed, but I can't find hide nor hair of him on the internet.

My memory isn't what it once was either which is why I checked The S & W Revolver A Shop Manual Sixth Printing page 23 before I posted my initial question. Mr. Kuhnhausen on page 29 also refers to the extractor star so go figure. Whatever you call them bottom line is this manual was a great investment on my part. Thanks

 

[Oldbird13]

Jerry Kuhnhausen..

Found a post from 1911 forum by his daughter stating her Dad passed away 2/09/1985. They plan to continue selling his books/manuals. If you check out his titles on Amazon, there are 100's of 5 star ratings for each of them.

 

[handejector]

Smith & Wesson only used the term Hand Ejector on the Model 1896 and 32 Hand Ejector. You will find no other model named "Hand Ejector" by S&W.

S&W catalogs and literature refute this statement.
Both the 22 Ladysmith and the Triple Lock were called Hand Ejectors in S&W paper at various times.

The Pirates Catalog-

Before a catalog was printed that included the Triple Lock, they printed an insert for existing catalogs---

The price list from the same catalog---

Look at the knurling on the extractor rod, (revolvers don't have ejectors!)

Older S&W catalogs call it an EJECTOR ROD.
Again, the Pirates catalog---

For more than FIVE DECADES, the instructions in the S&W box tops called it an EJECTOR ROD.
An M&P box from the very early 1900s-

A Gold M&P box from the mid 1950s---

 

[glowe]

I think all of us have called S&Ws extractors and/or ejectors from time to time. Apparently the company suffered from the same lack of discipline.

 

[cmansguns]

If the shoe fits..........

A bird-brain on a cell phone ran a red light on October 14, 2014 and T-boned a beautiful 2011 Chevy Impala LTZ. I was the Chevy driver......I did have to be EXTRACTED from the wreck...but thankfully, due to seat belts and airbags.....I was not EJECTED from the wreck!

As Roy says..........Hope this helps

PS: If you happen to own any S&W 22 with infamous "tight" chambers your going to have to find a way (Big Hammer) to XXXTract.....before you'll be able to EEEJect so don't pay no mind to terminology.