HELP! US gun part shipped to Canada

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I'm reaching out to see if one of you kind folks south of the border will help a fella out. I am in need of a rear sear to fix a 1st. mod. DA in .44 Russian. Sadly, Jack First Gun Parts in S.Dak. will not ship to Canada. Is there a nice fella out there who'd buy the part on my behalf and ship it here to Ontario? It's a small part so it'd fit into a small padded envelope. It goes without saying that I'd cover all costs.
 
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I'm confused. I just purchased an antique S&W, seller shipped with no problem at either end, USA or Canada, and shipping an antique sear would be a violation of law?
 
Exmilcop said:
I'm confused. I just purchased an antique S&W, seller shipped with no problem at either end, USA or Canada, and shipping an antique sear would be a violation of law?
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Nuts? Yes. But dem the rules.
I would double check, anonymously, the import rules just to be double-dog sure that it was done legally. Just because it happened doesn't guarantee somebody followed all the rules properly.

However, if the seller has the magic dust to properly navigate all of the USA/CANADA laws, contact them and have them purchase, pay and send the part to you.
 
Exmilcop said:
I'm confused. I just purchased an antique S&W, seller shipped with no problem at either end, USA or Canada, and shipping an antique sear would be a violation of law?
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ITAR isn’t just banning X items from export… it’s regulating the export of said items. Federal agencies can’t catch every single violation, but if you get caught… fines and/or jail time. Just like the NFA, ITAR isn’t something you want to screw with.

I have a pending investigation related to ITAR that I uncovered from a foreign national that I refused last year (was also coming in to pick up HK parts at a local mailbox). Unfortunately, stuff like this can be uncovered in some run of the mill ways.

There are companies in Canada that are setup to do the export/import related to ITAR items. They register with DOS (if I remember correctly) and do all the paperwork. I’d suggest reaching out to them and seeing if your item is covered under ITAR.

Just because a gun is an antique doesn’t mean parts “are antiques.” Fire control parts can fall under that just due to what the item is.
 
The ITAR regs. are complex but you can work through them. From a quick look it looks like if the value of the part is less than 500$ and if the part doesn't fall within a whole bunch of special categories then you should be able to export it. Your problem will be finding someone with experience that is willing to do it. You will have to check on your side to make sure that there are not any import problems.
C.G.B.
 
As others have said, ITAR regulations are complex. They are far-reaching and rife with pitfalls for the unaware. We constantly deal with this in aerospace. Just discussing a military program with a foreign national falls under ITAR rules. The foreign national can be working your contract in another country, be part of NATO, or even be sitting in your US office looking at you. That's right, words or information provided to a foreigner are exports. Exports, per se, aren't necessarily a violation, but you better be compliant with the rules. It's not only hardware, but exporting knowledge can get you jail time.
 
It looks like your part would come under CFR Title 15, Part 774, 0A501... Exceptions LVS:500$ for 0A501.c, .d, .e, .x if ultimate destination is Canada.
The revolver would be covered by 0A501.a
The part would fall under 0A501.c
At least that is the way I read our regulations. You will need someone that understands all this to ship to you. It will probably cost a lot more than it is worth.
C.G.B.
 
Hard to believe there are no parts companies in Canada. I’d search the net. And Fb.
 
cgbach said:
From a quick look it looks like if the value of the part is less than 500$ and if the part doesn't fall within a whole bunch of special categories then you should be able to export it.
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If I remember correctly, $100 and less don’t need any sort of licensing/registration, but still need to put in for an approval to export.

My contact who I used prior for it is on an extended vacation, so I can’t confirm accuracy. I remember the $100 limit because none of the parts I was dealing with were under that… HK 416 stuff.
 
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