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I checked with the local gun store Guys, I got by the Local Gun Store today and spent some time looking at the S&W M&P 10mms they had in stock. They're NOT Apex triggers -- contrary to what the store's people told me before. Worse, the triggers they had on these in-stock pistols weren't...

I was very close friends with a S&W regional sales manager for some time. Based on what he's told me, I KNOW S&W DOES do things like this. I also know lower echelon S&W folk aren't always aware of some changes. The question is, did S&W do it in this case? That's what I'm trying to...

How the Devil do you know???? See my last post! It also applies to you! I was asking an honest question -- and trying to get to the truth. You're NOT helping! Sadly, S&W has had some MAJOR problems with the rollout of these pistols. It's perfectly reasonable that they'd do something like...

Except when they're not -- and when they deal directly with the company rep! All three of the brand new M&P 10mms they had on their shelves had SPECTACULAR APEX triggers. It's CERTAIN the store didn't put them into the pistols. So how else do you explain it -- SPONTANEOUS MOLECULAR...

They were new.

I was told all new M&P 10mms have Apex triggers -- straight from the factory. That seems simple enough. It's either true -- or not.

If you were "emperor" at S&W -- and could order a new, updated 1006 and other caliber series tomorrow -- what features would the "new" 4th Gen 1006 pistols have that the 3rd Gens don't. As for me, I'd like interchangeable, captured recoil springs in light, medium and heavy spring tension...

Folks, A YouTube gunner posted a video where he'd sent off his Ruger GP 100 Match Champion 10mm to have it reamed out for 10mm Magnums. Can it be done with S&W 610s? If so, what would you expect to pay? Having a 610 that could shoot .40 S&W, 10mm standard AND 10mm Magnum would be a VERY...

Folks, This doesn't seem workable or even possible, but I have to ask: Can a S&W 625 revolver be modified from strictly .45 ACP to handle in addition -- safely and relatively easily -- .45 Super, .45 Magnum and .45 Colt? Years ago, I saw one advertised -- and just shook my head. S&W may have...

Folks, What's involved in becoming a fully certified, bonafide, genuine S&W armorer? How would one pursue it -- and how long would it take? What might expected, associated costs be? Please cut and paste any links you might have -- with any background information. Frankly, I was appalled at...

Fellow S&W fans, Why do 4006TSW magazines have the "dimpled" crimped place near the base? Any idea?

How's your converted Model 4013 held up in 10mm? Bluedot37, How does your converted-to-10mm 1013/ 4013 shoot? How has it held up -- and what issues have you encountered? How much ammo have you put through it -- and how hot have you dared to shoot? Exactly what was involved in the...

Yes It came from the factory that way. In my experience, it IS rare to have that stated this way -- and straight from the factory -- and made available to the public. A department armorer didn't remove the disconnector. I've been watching for decades -- and never seen one before.

What's your "best guess" on the current, "actual" value of a like-new, circa 1995-ish 4586 with fewer than 100 rounds through it -- and no magazine disconnector -- from the factory? Book value on this pistol would seem largely irrelevant -- because it is so rare, if not unique. Four to six...

Maybe you didn't just get lucky. According to the above quote, Smith was already shipping Apex triggers by Feb. 16, 2023.

Here's where the idea originated... According to Christopher S. in msgo.com (Mississippi Gun Owners) This appears to be the latest I can find: Christopher S. Christopher S. Registered Joined Dec 7, 2020 1,635 Posts #5 · Feb 16, 2023 So S&W partnered with Apex for the factory triggers on the...

I've purposely -- and with great difficulty -- waited well into the M&P 10mm's 2.0 life cycle before I allowed myself to fall in love with one. Several days ago, the siren call drew me to my favorite gun store. There, I was told all three of the 10mm M&Ps they had in stock had Apex triggers in...

Hogues not available for 4536 I just got off the phone with Hogue. They told me grips for the 4536 aren't available -- only the grip sleeve. That did not make my day...

Haven't called yet... No, I haven't called DeSantis yet, but will this week. The last time I talked to Galco, the customer service rep all but suggested my wanting a Miami Classic for an out-of-production pistol like a 1006 was border-line ridiculous. I haven't dealt with Galco since...

Great info! Thanks! Bluedot37, Great info! Just what I needed! Suddenly, 3rd Gens with adjustable sights aren't off-limits to me now...And THAT'S a big deal.