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Old 06-19-2013, 01:39 AM
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I'm trying to decide on one of these for a new 9mm target gun. I'm leaning towards the Glock but I hear that they can't shoot lead bullets, and are more prone to go kaboom than the others. I hear the M&P 9mm's can be spotty in the accuracy dept. The XDM's I hear have lousy triggers. Which one do you like and why?

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Old 06-19-2013, 07:25 AM
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I would go with the XDm, in large part because I already have an XDm. I would not rate the trigger on the XDm as being at all "lousy", in fact it's fairly good with a 5.5 lbs. break. Yeah, there is about 1/16 inch of sear creep but that's rather easy to adapt to with simple practice and creeepy triggers are pretty darned common with most striker fired tupperware pistols. There are also trigger kits available for those who desire a lighter and crisper trigger. On the plus side the reset of the trigger is short and I found it easy to feel.

Other positives for the XDm are sights that are IMO very very good, multiple levels of safeties that don't intrude on the shooter, and a takedown procedure that doesn't require dry firing the pistol. Some may hate that grip safety but I've NEVER had any problem activating it and it does provide another layer of safety when holstering your pistol as long as you use the rear of the slide to thumb the pistol into a holster. So, no "Glock leg" with the XDm. As for the trigger on the M&P series, I LOATHE this STUPID trigger and it's why I won't purchase a M&P. Partly because I have narrow fingers and have found the trigger locked out when I was too high on the trigger when I was test driving for my first polymer. Glock's patent on their trigger has expired so IMO S&W should simply copy it as was done with the XDm. It works about as expected without intruding on the shooter or requiring shooter to pay special attention to finger placement. BTW, my XDm is my only pistol with a trigger safety and I find these devices rather useless, however they are apparently an absolute requirement for a Law Enforcement firearm even if they don't really prevent or do anything.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:25 AM
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Glocks ARE NOT prone to kabooms. The ones that did were chambered in 40s&w and more often then not were [bad] reloads. Somehow ive never heard of a cop having a kaboom. Only civilians who reload.

Get a regular aftermarket barrel and you can shoot lead.

The only time you will get "Glock leg"is is when you decide to stick something in the trigger guard as you re holster the weapon. In this case you either need better/more training or better holster. I un holster and re holster my Glock every day, at least twice a day for the last 4 years and have yet to have it go off. Yesterday i un holster'd it 4 times and im still good as new.

M&P or Glock. I'll leave the grip safeties to the 1911 crowd. If the safety fails, and they have, your gun is useless. If you use it as a SD gun and for whatever reason can only operate it one handed good luck chambering a round ir racking the slide without using the safety.

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Old 06-19-2013, 08:33 AM
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If you can rent all 3 at the same time, you could see which one that you shoot the best.

If not, which is the most comfortable in your hand?
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Old 06-19-2013, 09:59 AM
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All three are used in IDPA and USPSA with great success. The IDPA rules that will come into effect this fall will move the XD from ESP to Stock Service Pistol along with the G34 and M&P. Mechanically all are good, and I'd suggest reading Brian Enos forum frequented by competitors before accepting the "I hear" assumptions.

The main difference in the guns lies in the ergonomics and suitability for YOUR purpose. There is no "BEST" for all purposes. Personally, I never made friends with the Glock "Luger" grip angle and am delighted with the M&P 9 5" Pro, which comes ready to go for IDPA/SSP and USPSA Production. If modifications are your thing, a lot of options are available. (Check Competition regulations for your sport before modifying yourself into a violation).

Decide on your purpose, go shoot all 3, then you decide.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:47 PM
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All of the things you mentioned, inability to shoot lead in a Glock factory barrel (which is not true), lousy triggers and spotty accuracy all have solutions of one sort or another. Some of the solutions may cost money. Which one is best is a matter of personal preference. I agree with OKFC05 in that the only real way to decide is to shoot all 3.

I have owned all 3 at one time or another (I sold the M&P after having it a short time) and decided that, for me, the G34 "works" the best but the XDm is a very close second.
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not really a fair input for me.

I have a G19, G17, G34.

Owned a SWMP9 and have shot some XDm9.

Sold the MP9 as I could not get used to the soft trigger return even with the Apex Ram installed.

I have the most time behind a G19 and have a G17 with a Storm Lake barrel.

I agree lead is really a non issue if you are a careful reloader but you can change out the barrel to standard rifling too.

My G34 is very smooth shooting and accurate.

Here is the unfair part. I have been assigned a G19 for several years. Shoot it alot. I have a pieced together real cheap in price G17 that I painted. Very smooth shooter for a non matching upper and lower. My G34 is also a non matching upper and lower. Had the upper for years as I used it as a switch top for my G35. Sold my G35 and completely got away from 40 SW. I eventually bought a brand new G17 lower and put my 34 upper on it.

with large hands, I prefer the Glock trigger (especially the positive reset) over all the plastic MP/XDm/Glock.
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