Red dot on pistol competition
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A Burris Fastfire III is a very good choice.
Rosco Shooter
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I agree with series guy regarding the Fast Fire III as I have one mounted on my M&P 40 CORE. Other factors you may want to consider are: compatibility with the pistol on which you are mounting the red dot: type of shooting activity: cost: etc. I chose the FF III because I didn't want to pay as much for a red dot as I paid for my pistol. Others may have differing views.
gwpercle
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I use Millet SP-1,s in NRA Bullseye Match competition .
22 LR - S&W model 41 and 38 special - S&W model 64 .
I have one mounted on each with 3 moa dot
22 LR - S&W model 41 and 38 special - S&W model 64 .
I have one mounted on each with 3 moa dot
The Burris FastFire started a whole revolution and many other makers are producing very similar sights. Vortex, Leupold, Nikon, and others. Most are fine. Depending on the competition would determine what size dot you should have. For Classic Bullseye a 3 MOA dot is fine, but for any kind of action shooting a larger 6 or 8 MOA dot is a lot easier to pick up for speed shooting.
I also use the FastFire III in Bullseye competition and you can't beat Burris customer support. I had a very early FFIII that developed a problem, I sent it in for repair and just received the latest, brand new FastFire III in exchange for zero cost. Burris has a lifetime warranty.
Depends on what you want to do, and what your budget is like (plus what your gun can reasonably mount).
Bullseye? An Ultradot-25, although I've heard quality has gone down some. Aimpoint makes some nice stuff if you want to get spendy. I find the micro-dots (FF3 et al) completely unsuited to the task.
Shoot-fast stuff? Dunno, ask those guys. Although I will say that I actually would prefer the Vortex over the Burris, for the simple fact that the Vortex has more manual brightness options. The Burris only has three. Auto is better, but it fails miserably if you're trying to shoot a light-colored illuminated target in front of a dark background.
Bullseye? An Ultradot-25, although I've heard quality has gone down some. Aimpoint makes some nice stuff if you want to get spendy. I find the micro-dots (FF3 et al) completely unsuited to the task.
Shoot-fast stuff? Dunno, ask those guys. Although I will say that I actually would prefer the Vortex over the Burris, for the simple fact that the Vortex has more manual brightness options. The Burris only has three. Auto is better, but it fails miserably if you're trying to shoot a light-colored illuminated target in front of a dark background.
I'm still using my old Tasco ProPoint sights and have never had an issue with them.
Dot size is important depending on the game you're playing. I have used 3 MOA for bullseye, 5-6 MOA for action/speed shooting, and 10 MOA (the old ProPoint 4, which is no longer made) for shotgun (action and aerial targets).
Dot size is important depending on the game you're playing. I have used 3 MOA for bullseye, 5-6 MOA for action/speed shooting, and 10 MOA (the old ProPoint 4, which is no longer made) for shotgun (action and aerial targets).
There's nothing wrong with the old Tasco Propoint. I still have one I used for nearly 20 years. The newer ones just weigh less.
DS-10-SPEED
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I also like the Burris FFIII's, I bought them for price and quality. I didn't want to spend a ton of money and I have been very happy with them.
I use the 8 MOA dots for pins and steel, I also have a 3 MOA that is better for longer range targets, I've had good results to 100 yards. The 8 MOA is 8" at 100 yards and the 3 MOA is 3".
Here is a dot size reference with iron sight comparison I made for shooting pins at 25 feet.
I use the 8 MOA dots for pins and steel, I also have a 3 MOA that is better for longer range targets, I've had good results to 100 yards. The 8 MOA is 8" at 100 yards and the 3 MOA is 3".
Here is a dot size reference with iron sight comparison I made for shooting pins at 25 feet.
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Revolver Man
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Just remembered--I used to recommend the Bushnell TRS-25. I don't anymore, as the price has inexplicably dropped from ~$90 to $40-$50. That's not a great sign.
Instead, I think the Sig Romeo5 fills that niche these days. Small-ish 'dot (the number is frankly meaningless, as manufacturers straight-up lie, and most folks have some degree of astigmatism), holds zero, doesn't cost stupid money. About the only downside is that it uses push buttons for brightness control. A knob would be much better.
And yes, I know a lot of guys recommend the Primary Arms Whatever the Hell It Is, but I just can't take that company seriously. They scar every optic they make with their garbage logo, which is literally just their company name in a free-ware font.
I don't think they take themselves seriously, either.
Instead, I think the Sig Romeo5 fills that niche these days. Small-ish 'dot (the number is frankly meaningless, as manufacturers straight-up lie, and most folks have some degree of astigmatism), holds zero, doesn't cost stupid money. About the only downside is that it uses push buttons for brightness control. A knob would be much better.
And yes, I know a lot of guys recommend the Primary Arms Whatever the Hell It Is, but I just can't take that company seriously. They scar every optic they make with their garbage logo, which is literally just their company name in a free-ware font.
I don't think they take themselves seriously, either.
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