Sultan of Swat, an S&W impact weapon

quinn · Jul 17, 2014

In my mailbox today was this S&W B96 M sap that I spotted on GB. I could find very little information about S&W saps other than a very interesting Youtube video. Apparently the company made 3 sizes, this being the middle size at about 8.25". High quality construction. Can anyone give the the years the company produced these?

BTW, I can legally own this in my state but cannot carry it, even under my CHL.

Maze 686 · Jul 18, 2014

Can't say when they were made, but I can tell you that after carrying one while working for the NJ DOC for 25 years, they do what they are meant to do very well too.

ohioseabee · Jul 18, 2014

Like Maze 686 said, they worked just fine. Being drunk doesn't connfer immunity when you take a swing at me! "Back in the day" we called the flat ones slapjacks as opposed to the spring loaded lead balls which were called blackjacks.

opoefc · Jul 27, 2014

These S&W saps are in the various leather catalogs of the factory in the 70s & 80s. The three sizes are (1) Model B96S - 8 oz., (2) Model B96M - 9 oz, and (3) Model B96L - 10 oz.
All in plain black leather only. Ed.

shawn mccarver · Jul 27, 2014

Interesting LE history. I suppose most of the leather makers offered some variation of the device. I used to get them from Brauer Brothers in St. Louis. I have seen them called by various names, including sap, flat sap, black jack, etc. This is not to be confused with the old NYPD "Day Stick," which was basically a short little truncheon as opposed to the longer "Night Stick," both of which were sold by Courtlandt Boot Jack Co., Inc., of Flushing, NY, which still sells its officially approved NYPD holsters and gear under the trade name of JAY-PEE, presumably a play on the initials of the grandfather of the clan, John Parlante, Sr. John, Jr. still runs the company.

A nice little write up on these sap devices can be found here:

Blackjacks and Saps

And these places, neither of which have I ordered from, claim to still offer the devices newly made for sale:

Various Designs of Jack Saps by Greenman Leather .ca :: Quality Handcrafted Leather Goods :: Custom Leatherworking :: Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada

and

d3 protection

Useful if legal, and neat photo prop for all of you fantastic photographers here!

Road Rat · Jul 28, 2014

Brings back memories of my old man. He decided to argue with the police one night (drunk; of course)!

One swing of one of those little flat saps landed right behind his right ear! He looked like a marionette with his strings cut!!

I thought it was funny those many years ago...and I still do!

ronnie gore · Jul 28, 2014

slap jack

we used them in the 70s, and they do work.
Nick Nolte used one in Mullholland falls movie with terrific effect

redneckemt · Jul 28, 2014

My College Professor was a Jersey Cop in the 60s (went into Teaching when the Leap grants first started) he started a lecture one day crying about how the rules had changed in favor or the criminals. He tossed his gloves onto his desk with a loud thud. Pulled out his handkerchief and dropped it with a thud. He was even wearing his old Police Hat. He removed it and laid it down also with a thud. Then he pulled out his IronClaw, knuckles and told his stick would have drawn too much attention.

Sap gloves, roll of coins in the handkerchief, steel washer sewed into the top of his hat. Oh I wish I could have seen him work. He was a boxer as well. Can you imagine getting g hit in the face by Boxer wearing sap gloves?

SPEEDGUNNER · Jul 29, 2014

I want one!

magicmanmb · Jul 31, 2014

Myself & the Chief are the only ones old enough to be grandfathered in to still keep one in uniform sap pocket. Thats what the pocket on the right leg was designed for. Everyone carries a flashlight in it now. They work like a gem w/o killing someone. I think they are safer to use than an ASP.

dscampbell · Jul 31, 2014

I carried one when I joined the department in 1973. It was especially useful when working in the jail. We ran an inmate population of 1200 to 1600 in general population with 6 deputies on the compound. The jail was formally an army base in WWII and an Air Force base during Korea. In 1975 due to a law suit the sheriff banned the flat sap but our u uniform pants continued to have a pocket for them.

Dirtman · Jul 31, 2014

The cops caught me with a home made sap way back when I was a punk teenager. It was a empty tape roll with a steel ball bearing in the middle and taped all up, and cleverly tucked up under the front seat of my car. Vicious little thing! They threatened to use it on me! I never carried that thing again. In fact I voluntarily gave it to them!
That was my first attempt at concealed carry. I've gotten much better at it since then, and legal!

S.B. · Jul 31, 2014

These are illegal in most states.
Steve

jimmyshot · Jul 31, 2014

Slapjack

In 1963 when I was a cop in Times Square we all carried a slapjack in our back pocket. The round blackjack worked better though! On a day tour when you had no nightstick, this was all you had, short of your gun. I once hit a kid in the head with it, with all my might, and he just shook it off. I converted to the round one. I had seen a storeowner chasing this black kid and yelling, so I ran after him and caught him. After I hit him so hard I found out that he had stole a loaf of bread and the store owner didn't want to press charges. I let the kid go!

SWTIM255 · Jul 31, 2014

new take on the sap

CITY SLICKER - available from DeSantis Holster
beats a old tube sock

Jhp147 · Jul 31, 2014

I carried one briefly in the early 80's, we called them "slappers". It was a S&W like this one. The older guys had some ancient looking ones that were worn smooth, faded brown, and had ended a few fights. We didn't have pockets, we carried them stuck in the front of the pants, angled for a weak side draw. I used mine mostly to wake up winos with a few taps on the soles of their shoes. Sold it to a collector years ago.

getoff · Jul 31, 2014

i have a beast of a "slapjack" by Bucheimer. measures over 10", spring steel and lead goodness... had one in 95/96 OTJ, but it was quickly removed from service. the guys and gals in my county (south FLA) are still allowed to use nunchukku. not a slapjack, but Bruce Lee's finest... its not legal here for carry, but i love mine none the less.

rwsmith · Jul 31, 2014

We called them slapsticks

Slapstick was the term we used for the sap. I first saw one back in the mid 60s when a Highway Patrolman was giving us a lecture. Some kid asked him about his slapstick in kind of a joking way and he produced one. I wouldn't not have like getting slapped with it.

JM4151 · Jul 31, 2014

Blackjacks

In 1972 they were issued equipment at the Philadelphia Police Academy. They stopped issuing them in the late 1970's and then they were made illegal to carry. Because I was grand fathered I was able to carry mine until I retired in 2004. For the last 25 years I was in plain clothes and I always carried mine in the right rear pants pocket, right next to my wallet. It helped me out of a few jams. Great for knocking on doors too.

Willothewisp · Jul 31, 2014

Looks like a leather bookmarker by Levinger. You can also get them monogrammed. We have them and in different colors. Weights at both ends and leather. Bookmarks & Bookweights - Bookmarks, Paper Weights, Bookmarkers - Levenger

Nice to know that I have a defensive weapon in my hand when reading at night. And they are great and very flexible.

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