Hofstet
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Anyone own a S&W Elite Gold side x side 20 ga? How do you like it? Positives, negatives?
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Exactly my question. Apparently not many Elite Golds sold. Did you go ahead and buy one?
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I would sure like to hear about these too.
They are being closed out at CDNN for $1190.00
It looks like a lot of gun for that money !!
I would sure like to hear about these too.
They are being closed out at CDNN for $1190.00
It looks like a lot of gun for that money !!
I've asked this question on this forum (w/no replies) and over on xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx forum.
After reading as much as I could on forums and the few magazine articles I could find, I would say the responses ranged from "Don't buy Turkish-made shotguns" to "Best Buy". Almost all responses were complimentary of the fit and finish of the gun.
Shotgunworld forum had a lot of opinions, and some bickering (they seem to do a lot of that there). Anyway, a gunwriter and his shooting friend chime in now and then. They both bought one and claim it is a best buy in the CDNN price range. I should point out, that I personally have no experience with this firearm.
After reading as much as I could on forums and the few magazine articles I could find, I would say the responses ranged from "Don't buy Turkish-made shotguns" to "Best Buy". Almost all responses were complimentary of the fit and finish of the gun.
Shotgunworld forum had a lot of opinions, and some bickering (they seem to do a lot of that there). Anyway, a gunwriter and his shooting friend chime in now and then. They both bought one and claim it is a best buy in the CDNN price range. I should point out, that I personally have no experience with this firearm.
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I own an Elite Gold, as do half a dozen of my friends. I got my 28" double trigger English stocked one from CDNN in August 2010, but I see them for sale now (Oct 2010) from Cabela's Gun Library, James Wayne and Bill Hanus. Prices vary from $1200 up, depending on the desirability of the configuration. 28" sells first.
Other than a heavy trigger pull on some of the early single trigger ones, the gun is excellent. Forth far more than the price. It is made by UTAS in Turkey, the same plant that made the Kimber Marias and Valier. It has nothing to do with Huglu quality.
It has a modest amount of real hand engraving, the barrel is properly rust, not hot, blued. The case coloring is bone/charcoal, not cyanide.
None of our seven guns have required any work or have had any malfunctions. My gun has a bit over 3,000 rounds without a hitch.
My 28" gun weighs 6# 7oz with a slight weight forward bias. It would be easier to carry if it were a couple of ounces lighter and a bit more neutral, but it shoots better the way it is set up.
The fixed chokes are all listed as IC/Mod. Mine measured .010" and.015". Others I measured were .011" and .017" and .014"/.014". Barrels are chromed, OK for steel. 3" chambers for the masochists among you.
At under $1500, this gun is the best deal I've seen around. It's a pity that S&W abandoned it. I hope that UTAS can get a US distributor because these guns are simply too good to fade away.
Other than a heavy trigger pull on some of the early single trigger ones, the gun is excellent. Forth far more than the price. It is made by UTAS in Turkey, the same plant that made the Kimber Marias and Valier. It has nothing to do with Huglu quality.
It has a modest amount of real hand engraving, the barrel is properly rust, not hot, blued. The case coloring is bone/charcoal, not cyanide.
None of our seven guns have required any work or have had any malfunctions. My gun has a bit over 3,000 rounds without a hitch.
My 28" gun weighs 6# 7oz with a slight weight forward bias. It would be easier to carry if it were a couple of ounces lighter and a bit more neutral, but it shoots better the way it is set up.
The fixed chokes are all listed as IC/Mod. Mine measured .010" and.015". Others I measured were .011" and .017" and .014"/.014". Barrels are chromed, OK for steel. 3" chambers for the masochists among you.
At under $1500, this gun is the best deal I've seen around. It's a pity that S&W abandoned it. I hope that UTAS can get a US distributor because these guns are simply too good to fade away.
bullseyebill
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Bought one from Cabela's (on sale) about a month ago 28" dt.sg.Have only put a few hundred rounds through it , but no problems.Other than the glossy polyurethane type finish on the stock it's really well put together. It's going to be my go to gun in N.Dakota next month.
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gunsnrods
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I have a 26 inch, single trigger in route from CDNN, $1209.00 delivered to my dealer. First S by S, I'll try some skeet next Tuesday and see if I can shoot it. I'm tall and long armed, not sure it will fit me w/out a slip on pad...
I recently purchased a ST model...both trigger pulls pretty much the same I'd say about 4lbs...traded my used 20 gauge 525 pretty much even steven...I think the S&W is way more gun than the browning 525...I always wanted a decent side by and S&W will refund your money if you have a problem and they can't fix it so I took a chance..chances are though we will be able to find parts for it if needed (ejectors, firing pins, usual wear parts)...my take is the gun is extremely well made...in my case it seemed like a very good deal....wood is pretty good grade 2 maybe 3...fit and finish absolutely beautiful....haven't start shooting it yet...bought it strictly for hunting pheasants woodcock and shooting some skeet...If this gun holds up it's a very very good value..I've held the Merkel 47e...I didnt see much difference between it and the S&W and the Merkel retails for 3K plus....The Elite seems a tad (2 oz's of so) front heavy, but still well balanced and much better balanced than my 525...Per my experience, for upland bird hunting, the easier a gun snaps up the better..This gun will fit that bill very well I have no doubt.... I'm therefore curious about what anyone (bullseyebill in particular) has to say about this gun after using it for a season of hunting...
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bullseyebill
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Huck1,
The gun performed just fine out west.Carried well and got the job done when I did my part.Had to remember to move the finger for the second trigger but that's part of the learning curve.Was shooting it well a couple of weeks ago at sporting clays until gravity cut the round short with a broken leg.Looking forward to healing up and getting back out there.
Bill
The gun performed just fine out west.Carried well and got the job done when I did my part.Had to remember to move the finger for the second trigger but that's part of the learning curve.Was shooting it well a couple of weeks ago at sporting clays until gravity cut the round short with a broken leg.Looking forward to healing up and getting back out there.
Bill
...I just picked up your reply...getting used to where to look for replies on the forum..I have shot about 100 rounds or so out the S&W Elite...I like it a lot...it swings well...just heavy enough to shoot clays not so heavy that you can't carry in the field....I was shooting trap with it and using the tighter choked barrel...it reaches out no problem...if you put the gun where it's supposed to be it breaks them very well...I have not patterened it yet but seems you can float the clay a bit...too much snow to even put a target up on our range right now...I am really pleased with it...I think if the gun holds up it will appreciate in value...but I didn't buy it for that..I just wanted a good solid well made upland bird gun I would enjoy carrying in the field..In any event, get better soon.
I did however find out that the heirloom warranty isnt worth as much as toilet tissue is.
They cant get parts and dont have any so keep your receipt. They will give you your money back.
I threw mine out and now I have one with a cracked forearm.
The last two s&w that were new ended up going back to the factory. After this heirloom warranty ordeal me and smith are through.
They cant get parts and dont have any so keep your receipt. They will give you your money back.
I threw mine out and now I have one with a cracked forearm.
The last two s&w that were new ended up going back to the factory. After this heirloom warranty ordeal me and smith are through.
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redbone
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Thanks for sharing. Interesting information.
Did S&W tell you they had no access to parts for the shotgun?
I certainly would not want to purchase this model without being able to replace a part.
Anyone else have this probelm with this model?
Hopefully some more people own one. I hunt with a 12ga Merkel model 8 and the S&W looks interesting. I like 2 triggers and a 20ga would be nice. Anyone with any more feed back? Anyone have some pics? Larry
S&W Gold Elete SXS 20 ga.
Hi All,
THis is my first post. I recently bought a Gold Elete 20. ga 26 inch POW stock. The gun is fantastic, excellent workmanship! Fit and finish Excellent, bluing Excellent. This is my first double and I cant seem to hit anything with it. The main concern I have is adding a recoil pad, the butt is checkered and I wonder how they will install a recoil pad over the checkering. Any thoughts?? The quality of this gun is excellent.
1 1/8 oz.
Hi All,
THis is my first post. I recently bought a Gold Elete 20. ga 26 inch POW stock. The gun is fantastic, excellent workmanship! Fit and finish Excellent, bluing Excellent. This is my first double and I cant seem to hit anything with it. The main concern I have is adding a recoil pad, the butt is checkered and I wonder how they will install a recoil pad over the checkering. Any thoughts?? The quality of this gun is excellent.
1 1/8 oz.
Elite Gold
I have now shot about 1500 rounds or so out of my elite gold 20 gauge side by side. It has worked flawlessly. Very, very nice gun...works well on sporting clays and skeet....at 6.75 lbs. it swings through or to targets very well....if you can pick this gun up for a grand or so it's a great deal....no doubt....no issues with trigger pull either...very well made gun....I look forward to bringing it out in the field this year for pheasants and woodcock...also other sxs owners stop me to take a look at it all the time...they told me I should have bought 2....you can't go wrong with this gun at that price...
I have now shot about 1500 rounds or so out of my elite gold 20 gauge side by side. It has worked flawlessly. Very, very nice gun...works well on sporting clays and skeet....at 6.75 lbs. it swings through or to targets very well....if you can pick this gun up for a grand or so it's a great deal....no doubt....no issues with trigger pull either...very well made gun....I look forward to bringing it out in the field this year for pheasants and woodcock...also other sxs owners stop me to take a look at it all the time...they told me I should have bought 2....you can't go wrong with this gun at that price...
oneounceload
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As one of the friends that The Technoid mentioned, I can say the SxS is suhweet to shoot!.. I reload a 3/4oz reload and the IC/M combo absolutely SMOKES the 5 stand and skeet targets. The 28" barrels with DT are a joy to shoot - and I am a LH shooter. I had a fear of doubling a DT guns for decades (as I did that once, the first time I ever fired a gun as a kid) - it took me exactly one station on the 5 stand - 5 targets - to get used to it. The English stock, splinter forearm, and DT are such a classic version of the SxS - it would be a shame to get any other version, but this gun is a great deal
As is the Kimber sidelocks at approx. 2500 (down from 5K) if you can find one
As is the Kimber sidelocks at approx. 2500 (down from 5K) if you can find one
M2MikeGolf
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Glad to see a thread about these shotguns. I really like the way these look and have been wanting a 20 ga sxs for years. There's a nice one on GB right now. But please, everyone, post pics!!!
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