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Smith & Wesson Model 1000
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Not recommended, the 3 inch guns have a steel receiver versus the lightweight alloy receiver of the 2 3/4 inch guns.
Quote from the 1981 S&W catalog "Barrels chambered for 3" magnum loads may not be used on the 2 3/4" Model 1000 receiver."
Owners manual can be downloaded here: Model 3000 & 1000 Shotgun, 1500 & 1700 Rifle Manuals
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Quote from the 1981 S&W catalog "Barrels chambered for 3" magnum loads may not be used on the 2 3/4" Model 1000 receiver."
Owners manual can be downloaded here: Model 3000 & 1000 Shotgun, 1500 & 1700 Rifle Manuals
KO
My 3000 pump can shoot 3” shells. I’ve never seen a 1000 auto.
As I stated in my post: Quote from the 1981 S&W catalog ........
I did not see it in the Owner Manuals either.
Congrats on your purchase, the S&W 1000 is a nice shotgun.
The only problem I've had with any of mine is that the original Piston Shock Absorber Piston Shock Absorber, 12 Ga., New Reproduction | Gun Parts Corp. may turn to goo and gum up the works.
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Most of the "civilian" Model 1000P/3000 pump shotguns came with 3" chamber barrels, all the "police" pump shotguns came with 2 3/4" chamber barrels.
The Model 1000P was renamed 3000 in 1981 to avoid confusion with the Model 1000 autoloader.
Here is what was available for autoloading shotguns from S&W in 1984, the last year they were marketed by S&W.
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Most of the "civilian" Model 1000P/3000 pump shotguns came with 3" chamber barrels, all the "police" pump shotguns came with 2 3/4" chamber barrels.
The Model 1000P was renamed 3000 in 1981 to avoid confusion with the Model 1000 autoloader.
Here is what was available for autoloading shotguns from S&W in 1984, the last year they were marketed by S&W.
KO
Interesting, My S&W 1000P, "I was told by S&W when I inquired" was manufactured in 1983. How do you confirm without paying $100 per gun find our basic data on your guns?
LostintheOzone
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1000 was made by Howa of Japan and marketed under S&W brand.
As a general reference receivers on shotguns with 2 3/4" chambers won't function with 3" shells. That's the case with a Rem 1100 and I don't think S&W 1000 is any different. The 2 3/4" chamber should be marked on your barrel. That would indicate, to me anyway, that the receiver was designed for 2 3/4" shells.
They still make 2 3/4" shells so why would you want to drive a square peg into a round hole? But if you insist....
As a general reference receivers on shotguns with 2 3/4" chambers won't function with 3" shells. That's the case with a Rem 1100 and I don't think S&W 1000 is any different. The 2 3/4" chamber should be marked on your barrel. That would indicate, to me anyway, that the receiver was designed for 2 3/4" shells.
They still make 2 3/4" shells so why would you want to drive a square peg into a round hole? But if you insist....
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edubbie
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Just looked at mine. Alloy receiver and the finish is scratching off near the bottom where the shell rim hits the loading tube area but wow, I forgot how nice the finish is on the stock and forearm.
I research old catalogs and advertisements to come to a conclusion that is close enough, for me anyway.
1000P introduced in 1980 and renamed to 3000 in 1981 S&W 1000P manual
KO
I have a Rem 1100 and not that they are the same gun (despite a striking resemblance), but the thing they share in common is having a regular receiver for 2.75" and a magnum receiver for 3". The last letter on my serial is "v" noting a regular receiver and the barrel I have is chambered for 2.75".
Long story short, you may want to research your serial more to see if you have a 2.75" barrel on a 3" receiver or a 2.75" barrel on a 2.75" receiver.
Long story short, you may want to research your serial more to see if you have a 2.75" barrel on a 3" receiver or a 2.75" barrel on a 2.75" receiver.
KO41 -- Thank you for your assistance
So, my S&W 1000P would have been manufactured in 1980 - 1981./
How does one get access to the catalogs you refer to?
This site has information but not a catalog that I could down load.
S&W Model 1000 Auto Loading Shotguns | Bangor Punta Archives
It's very easy to tell a 3" receiver from a 2 3/4" on the S&W 1000 series.
The 3" magnum is blued steel receiver and is marked Smith & Wesson Model 1000M. The standard 2 3/4" receiver is a black finished aluminum alloy marked Smith & Wesson Model 1000.
There are a couple outliers though, the 12ga and 20ga slug guns have a 2 3/4" steel receiver and the buttstock also has a recoil pad like the 3" Magnum guns.
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Here are the rest of the S&W sporting shotguns for 1984.
The 1984 order numbers for the ones I own are:
Autoloader
213030
213070
211060
211080
216000
214600
Pump
233060
243000
235000
Target
211000
212000
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The 1984 order numbers for the ones I own are:
Autoloader
213030
213070
211060
211080
216000
214600
Pump
233060
243000
235000
Target
211000
212000
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LostintheOzone
US Veteran
I don't think the factory would put a 2.75" barrel on a 3" receiver for obvious safety issues. 3" shells don't work real well in 2.75" barrels. Although it may be possible to get a 3" shell into a 2.75" chamber, 0.25 inches of that shell is going to be in the forcing cone. That will cause excessive pressure in the chamber and that is never a good thing.
I used to load 2.5" shells for a British double. I cut the hulls down so the finished shell was 2.5". I had to use a roll crimp over a card and seal with paraffin. Old factory ammo was made that way before the star crimp came along.
I think there is a misunderstanding here, nobody was talking about using 3" shells in a 2.75" chamber barrel. Using a 2.75" chambered barrel on a 3" Magnum (Model 1000M) receiver is perfectly fine. S&W states that the 3" chambered barrels are for the Magnum (1000M) models only.
KO
Okay, I checked the barrel extensions on both 20ga and 12ga 2.75" and 3" barrels. The 3" barrels have a protrusion on them that do not allow them to be installed on a 2.75" receiver.
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