Possibly what I was waiting for, FPC in 10 mm


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Great...now I gotta buy two FPCs. I do love that they keep cranking out new products, but my wallet hates it.

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Well they finally did it. Wish they would have let us know last year. Started buying parts for an AR platform 10mm. Half way there. How about some 20-25 round magazines? Just extend the 15 rounders like the 9mm.
Then you can come out with a FPC in 5.7x28mm and really hurt me where it counts.

Been waiting for this - I want one. FDE, please, so it’ll be different than my 9.

Nice but I’ll wait for it to ship with extended mags.. just ordered a 9mm this week so I can wait while I play with this one lol

Couldn't say it any better.

You will like it. Mine shot a small 5 shot group with 3 shots touching at 35 yards. Using inexpensive reloads.

When they say crossbolt safety, is that the tab straight up from the mag release by the bolt?

Okay, what am I missing. First they do the 9. No problems there. Then they go to the 40. Not my second choice but, okay. Then they go to the 10mm. Huh. I think the 45 is a more popular choice than the 10.

I want my 45 dang it. Pleeeeaaaassseee Eddy (for those not familiar this would be my best Roger Rabbit).

I think that the route they chose makes perfect sense. Make the 9mm first, because that will be the volume seller. Make the 40 second, to try to maintain their own cartridge. Now 10mm because that's getting to the point of trying to break into the big 3 in terms of popularity, and to go with their m&p.

If youre looking for a quality, fun to shoot .45acp pcc, check out the ruger lc carbine. Fantastic shooter for the money and easy to get higher capacity mags for(Kriss 30rd extensions).

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Normally wouldn't get a 10mm PCC, but one that shares mags with my 10mm M&P sounds like a good deal.

I think that is the bolt release. The cross bolt safety is the button at the front of the trigger guard.

Now I just need to find someone that will take my money for one of these. I think I’ve got 12 M&P 10mm mags, so I’ve been ready for this!

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Went to the range yesterday to test velocities out of the FPC9. Tried some different 9mm ammo through the carbine. Impressive results. 124g handloads. Nothing special. Average 1249 fps. Bought this Norma 108g MHP defense ammo. Average 1434 fps. Winchester SG9W. 115G FMJFP. Box stated training/practice ammo. Loaded faster than normal, but they say it's not +P. Average 1543 fps! Nice. It is supposed to be slightly slower than the M1152 ammo. Don't think so. Tried it out of a 4.75" pistol. Got 1353 fps. Would like to see 10mm results through the FPC. I have the M&P 10mm with the compensator. Shot some 200g Grizzly ammo. 1277fps. Box stated 1250.

I am going to hold out for a S&W FPC in 45. Nothing against Ruger but, I am on the S&W forum after all. I still think a Spec combo of a FPC and M&P in 45ACP with consecutive serial #s would be a hot seller.

Just sayin.

Has anyone actually got one yet? I went by my LGS today and they have one coming in on Thursday. I promptly slapped down some plastic and had them put my name on it. I’ll keep everyone apprised and might even be able to provide a range report before the weekend. I’ll go in with my 12 M&P mags pre-loaded

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I think you are correct. Also surprising is no 30 Super Carry yet. I guess that will die off soon.

What would really be wild would be a FPC in 357/38. I know the magazine issue is the big difficulty with it but, man would it be fun.

I wouldn’t mind seeing one in .357 Sig.

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No desire for the 9mm version, would really like a 45acp version, but the 10mm has interest piqued. I had a Mech Tech 10mm carbine upper a while back and it was a good platform let down by lack of serviceability.

I look forward to your review.

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I'd be curious if the 9mm and 40 share the same frame. They should like the regular M&Ps. The 45 and 10mm share the same M&P frame. Would make sense why the 10mm came first being they already had the barrel from the 40, just need to rechamber and add a heavier buffer spring.

Hi Guys: Anyone know of a good muzzle brake for the 10mm? TIA for the suggestions.

Us handloaders would like to know what the fired brass looks like? I had the Cmmg in 10mm it was a thumper for about 2 mags until I inspected the brass then she got sold...

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You would think that since they already make the 9mm and 40 cal, doing a .357 Sig would be a piece of cake. Bore the 9mm receiver out to .357 Sig size and put it on a 40 chassis - job done.

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So many S&W's, so few funds!!

I have the 9mm and I used it USPSA matches for the last two years. With out a doubt it’s fun to shoot, and it has never failed to function over 1000’s of rounds. Now the 10mm would be a real nice woods gun, but a little too much for competition. It will be interesting to see what S&W chambers next in the FPC line.

Going to wait til they come out with a S&W Response in 10mm,. Hoping I can use all my 30 round 10mm Glock mags. From my CMMG.

Take my money. Thanks for planting that seed. I almost ordered the 10mm FPC last week but paused. A Response in 10 mm would be awesome if it ever happens. Got the nine. Second range trip, I put the Glock magwell in it. It's still in there due to 32 rd. Glock mags I have. I think I'll wait.

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I'll get one, but wished for the 45...

Well, after some miscommunication on the LGS and my part, I finally picked it up this morning. I had called them on Thursday the 27th and they said it hadn’t come in. I waited till yesterday and called them. They said oh, yeah, it came in on the 27th and we tried to call you

Oh well, water under the bridge and I’m not going to get upset about it. Range trip planned for tomorrow and I’ll post my results.

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Took the 10mm FPC to the range today. I ran 90 rounds through it with one FTF that happened on the last round out of one of my 2.0 10mm mags. When I was loading the mags that came with the FPC, I noticed the springs were quite a bit stiffer than the 2.0 mags. I was actually pretty impressed there were no feeding issues with a brand new gun and mags. I was shooting 200 grain Berry’s plated FP over 8.2 grains Longshot. Average velocity was 1311 fps. The same ammo was running at 1131 fps avg. in my M1006 and 1095 fps avg. in my M1076.

I had some(operator induced) issues with my optic, which was an Ultradot. The reticule kept blinking out randomly between shots. Fixed that by tightening down the battery cover, then the view kept getting darker and darker…I didn’t realize it has a polarizing filter for sunlight, and it kept rotating slightly and getting darker after each shot…D’oh While I was having the optic issues, I did a couple mag dumps just sighting down the length of the pic rail and checking rapid fire function.

Once I got it all figured out and started making adjustments, it started to get really fun. My last mag of 15 made a ragged half dollar sized hole. This was at 42 ft., which is the max distance on the indoor range I was using. I can’t wait to get it to my outdoor club range and really put it through its paces.

Balance was good until I took the two full mags out of the buttock storage. Then it became fairly nose heavy and the recoil was a lot more pronounced, especially with the hard plastic butt. Other than that, I like the ergonomics and to me, it’s a comfortable and naturally pointing firearm.

I kept my brass segregated from my two third gen pistols just to see if there was any noticeable deformity or bulging, like Erik mentioned with the 10mm Banshee. This is all cheap range pickup brass that has been loaded at least twice before, and with a cursory inspection, I don’t see any major issues with it. I’ll run a mag of new Starline through it next range visit and see how it comes out. One thing I did notice about ejection, almost half of my brass ended up out in the range lane, but that’s why I use the cheap stuff where I have a good chance on losing it.

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Thanks for the preliminary report.

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A ~200 ft/lb increase over the pistols is very interesting.

Thanks for the range review.

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Awesome glad to hear it's not ruining brass!

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That is good range info. I hope they do come out with one in FDE. I did purchase a Promag 20 round 10mm magazine and swapped the spring for a Taran Tactical spring. Works fine in my M&P pistol.

LGS had these in stock that I was able to handle. First time I've every held an FPC. Like noted, felt a little buttstock heavy w/ two unloaded mags. Can imagine that gets worse if they're full. Spring was heavy as expected. Was curious about the length of pull as it is not adjustable and the sight rail starts in front of the trigger guard on the handguard. Wish the sight rail extended back over the rcvr but it is what it is. For me, any optic would need to be on a riser to get a comfortable/repeatable sight picture. The concept is novel. Not sure I'll be able to convince myself to purchase.

The FPC sight rail is entirely on the handguard by design. Even though the hinge mechanism has proven to stay snug (and is self compensating for wear like a double barrel shotgun), if any play ever were to develop, the sights would always stay aligned with the barrel.
The receiver tube is in-line with the bore, so a riser on your red dot sight is required. Not coincidently the height of the picatinny rail above the bore is identical to an AR, so any red dot optic with riser that's suitable for an AR will work on the FPC.
I'm an average 5'11" and find the fixed LOP very comfortable but maybe not everyone will. If I had to pick between an adjustable buttstock and the recoil buffer system in the FPC stock, I'm still picking the recoil buffer. The FPC recoil is much less than other blowback 9 carbines such as Keltec, Ruger, or Beretta.

I picked up a Vortex Strikefire II that I mounted on my FPC for the next range outing. Bigger objective and much easier to see than the multidot. It has both the red and green dot. Seems like a pretty solid optic with a sturdy mount.

I’m not really sure where to mount it…more fore or aft? Is there a rule of thumb, or is it personal preference?

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I love my 9mm version, shoot lots of USPSA and steel matches with it, and I routinely have other shooters asking about it. Now the 10mm looks like it would be a great woods or backpacking carbine. Without a doubt it is my favorite gun, at least for now.

Thought some might enjoy seeing my "STRIBOG" PCC. It has the appearance of an SBR but IS BRACED. IT is a Slovakian clone of the Blow back, Swiss B&T, that our army replaced the WWII Grease Gun with. Mine is 9mm - but they make .45s also. Mine has a 9" barrel, Iron sights + red dot + green Laser, & collapsible "BRACE". IT is very accurate ,100% reliable, & great fun to shoot. Mine is house gun, but can travel well folded. IT is very fine quality & compares to others costing double or triple. Mine was about $500. a couple of years ago. I still love it, & a keeper.

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