1854 45 Long Colt +P

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I would check the owner's manual or call the manufacturer .

Better safe than sorry !

Gary
I still call that round 45 Colt ... but I'm old .
 
I have shot about 200 through mine, 23,000 psi loads from Brian Pierce’s 45 Colt loads. S&W says no, but they have the same gun chambered in 44 magnum. If I blow it up I’ll buy a Marlin!
 
Would someone please tell me, what is this cartridge everyone calls a .45 Long Colt. Is there a .45 Short Colt or is the .45 Long Colt some new cartridge longer than a .45 Colt but shorter than a .45-70. Or is this a renaming of an older cartridge I've never heard of?

People who write for gun magazines can be just as stupid as the readers who quote them. Mind, I am not calling anyone here stupid, but really, if you are going to post on any forum about any subject, please, unless you are using a direct quote, I beg of you, please use the correct terminology.

Llance
 
Would someone please tell me, what is this cartridge everyone calls a .45 Long Colt. Is there a .45 Short Colt or is the .45 Long Colt some new cartridge longer than a .45 Colt but shorter than a .45-70. Or is this a renaming of an older cartridge I've never heard of?

People who write for gun magazines can be just as stupid as the readers who quote them. Mind, I am not calling anyone here stupid, but really, if you are going to post on any forum about any subject, please, unless you are using a direct quote, I beg of you, please use the correct terminology.

Llance

Since there is a .32 Long Colt, .38 Long Colt and .41 Long Colt and Short versions of all of them, it is natural that many refer to the .45 Colt as Long also! It has been this way for as long as I know. Why don't you and the others that Are continually trying to correct the entire shooting community in the "proper" name of this cartridge simply give up and accept that this is and has been the common, and generally, accepted reference for the .45 Colt for many years and pretty much everyone understands that and accepts it, except apparently you and a few others! Give it a rest!!
 
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Does anyone know if you can shoot 45 Long Colt +P in a 1854 lever gun?


Since you are obviously referring to the S&W Model 1854 rifle that is factory chambered for .44 Magnum, a far higher pressure cartridge than the .45 Colt +P, of course the .45 +P is safe to use in that rifle.
 
“simply give up and accept that this is and has been the common, and generally, accepted ….. for many years and pretty much everyone understands that and accepts it, except apparently you and a few others! Give it a rest!!”


This applied to slavery as well but that didn’t make it right. The relocation of Native Americans, the internment of Japanese American citizens, and many other things fall into the same category.
 
I just got one of the gun rags in the mail and there was a story about the 45 Long Colt.

That's what the author called it, both in the title and throughout the article.

Just saying...

That doesn't make it ... Right .

Just saying...
Gary
 
An uneducated gun writer and his less than stellar editor do not make it right regardless of their eminence in the industry. So I will continue to say; SHAME ON THE WRITER AND EVEN MORE SHAME ON HIS/HER EDITOR.

Somehow I'm thinking when Colt brought out the .45 Colt cartridge, they didn't call it the .45 Long Colt. Thus when folks went to their local ammunition supplier they asked for .45 Colt cartridges. That has been in usage far longer than this idiocy of .45 Long Colt.

If people want to be stupid about things that is their business, however I can and will attempt to set them straight, but I sure as 'ell do not have to accept their stupidity as the norm.

Llance
 
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I don't know for certain, but always thought "Long Colt" was used to distinguish from 45 ACP., probably going back to the ACP's introduction.

At any rate, the use of "Long Colt" don't irritate me nearly as much as "clips" for "magazines". I don't mind newbies making the mistake, but writers, whether they be novelists or worse yet gun writers, who mix up the terms, make me irate.
 
I don't know for certain, but always thought "Long Colt" was used to distinguish from 45 ACP., probably going back to the ACP's introduction.

At any rate, the use of "Long Colt" don't irritate me nearly as much as "clips" for "magazines". I don't mind newbies making the mistake, but writers, whether they be novelists or worse yet gun writers, who mix up the terms, make me irate.
The term may go back further than 45 acp ...
45 Schofield 1875 tio 1878 the vast majority went to the U. S. Army . The 45 Colt SAA and 45 Schofield saw service together in the Army and was shorter than the 45 Colt !
I would bet that was when the long and shot terms got started but the correct trminology is 45 Colt and 45 Schofield .

Gary
 
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