For those of you with blown out extractors on your M&P 15-22... I have a question.

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For those of you with blown out extractors on your M&P 15-22... I have a question.

What ammo were you using? Also why wont S&W send replacement parts for this gun? Or will they? Has anyone actually asked if they will sell parts for this gun? Seems like a spare bolt may be in order.
 
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S&W wants the rifle back for quality control purposes. Generally the extractor doesn't just break. At least not at low round counts. There is almost another contributing factor (Like a OOB discharge). The want to inspect the rifle so they cam make sure it does not happen again. Plus they can document what they are seeing in case there os a need for a design change.
 
I was shooting Winchester HV Expert. Since I started using Federal Bulk ammo I haven't had a problem, but that might just be because S&W fixed the problem.
 
blown extractor

Remington Golden Bullet - i was warned......

OOB discharge and the casing blew up like a soda can being crushed.

I will stick with CCI Mini Mags from now on.
 
Federal bulk ammo, oob discharge. It didnt blow the extractor out but did mangle the .22 casing and blew powder etc into my face. Until this happened the rifle was shooting perfectly.

Ron
 
asked a few...

questions of S&W customer service today. From what I was told, they aren't going to be offering replacement parts for the 15-22 anytime in the near future. They do not plan on revising their 15-22 manual stating not to use certain ammo because they say that the problems that have been reported with certain ammo is unsubstansiated. Anyone sending in a firearm for repair should expect to wait a quite a bit longer than normal. I sent my 15-22 before the holidays and was told it was shipped yesterday and I should see it sometime next week.
 
mine let loose while shooting winchester 333 bx of 36gr plated hollow points. F.O.B.
 
why dont someone start a poll on this and maybe we can find a semi safe ammo for the forum to recommend without having to give a "i think" what do yall think
 
I read on another forum some people believe it is hollow points causing this issue? Could there be any substance to this? I have not experienced the blown out extractor (yet), but initially I had a ton of problems with the ejector which I fixed.

Somebody more "bullet savy" than I may chime in on this.
 
No properly designed rifle should fire out of battery with any ammo of the right caliber. That's why there are SAAMI specs. If a hollow point bullet causes it to get hung up during feeding then it should only jam not fire. This might seem like no big deal because it's just 22 rounds blowing up and a few rifles going back to the factory, but imagine if this were 223 rifles firing OOB. A recall may be in order once they collect enough data from returned rifles and find a fix.
 
Dragon88 said:
No properly designed rifle should fire out of battery with any ammo of the right caliber. That's why there are SAAMI specs. If a hollow point bullet causes it to get hung up during feeding then it should only jam not fire. This might seem like no big deal because it's just 22 rounds blowing up and a few rifles going back to the factory, but imagine if this were 223 rifles firing OOB. A recall may be in order once they collect enough data from returned rifles and find a fix.
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What if the rifle is in spec, but the ammo is not in spec? How does the firearm compensate for that possibility?
 
i agree they have a prob.. but compairing a rimfire firing oob to a center fire firing oob is 2 totally different things...its very easy to crimp the rim of a 22.. a dirty chamber can do it, a ftf can do it, even a failure to eject the prior round can cause the bolt to pinch the next round... ive only had 1 centerfire fire oob on me and that was due to the primer wasnt set deep enough and the bolt crushed it... just my .02 ... :D but saying a rimfire should never fire oob no matter what is like saying a belt fed gun should never cook off a round, it happens... its kinda the nature of the beast if you will... and besides when a round separate and cooks off in a belt fed gun it puts on a nice light show at night and you even get some cheers... (at knob creek anyway)
 
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27 Beck said:
What if the rifle is in spec, but the ammo is not in spec? How does the firearm compensate for that possibility?
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That's why I said ammunition of the right caliber, which also means in spec. So far three different brands of common 22LR have been mentioned.
 
27 Beck said:
What if the rifle is in spec, but the ammo is not in spec? How does the firearm compensate for that possibility?
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If it's all about out of spec ammo..... then I think it would be fair to say that the 15-22 compensates for that possibility less effectively than other .22 firearms. :rolleyes:
 
27 Beck said:
What if the rifle is in spec, but the ammo is not in spec? How does the firearm compensate for that possibility?
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I could agree on "out of spec ammo" if all the instances were relating to ONE type or brand of ammo, or different rifles.....but that just doesn't seem to be the case on this particular forum discussion. Doesn't anybody see a pattern emerging here? It's not one particular brand of ammo, but it IS one particular brand of rifle, and I don't believe that every instance of malfunction relating to extractors and OOB'S concerning this firearm are caused by "out of spec ammo". I have shot a ton of semi-auto 22's over the years and have NEVER had an "OOB" discharge in any of them! Now, that is not saying that they don't ever happen, just that its never happened to me (until the 15-22) but I am saying that my ruger's, remmy's, win's, marlins and any of my other 22's have never had "premature release". And it is not normal or as common as some people would have you believe. And for those who think that it's not a legitimate safety condition (OOB'S), even with a mere 22lr, you are seriously oblivious and complacent.

S&W will probably continue to play dumb until somebody get seriously injured or worse. It's just like I said in another post, do you really think they are going to disclose the exact number of 15-22's that have been back to the factory for repair?
 
UtahHunting said:
I read on another forum some people believe it is hollow points causing this issue? Could there be any substance to this? I have not experienced the blown out extractor (yet), but initially I had a ton of problems with the ejector which I fixed.

Somebody more "bullet savy" than I may chime in on this.
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Mine were not hollow points, Remmington
 
BELT_FED said:
why dont someone start a poll on this and maybe we can find a semi safe ammo for the forum to recommend without having to give a "i think" what do yall think
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In the last couple days I have read of failures while using Remington, Winchester, CCI and Federal. If we exclude all these we'll have to start throwing rocks for fun. ;)
 
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