Maximum effective range...

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Today Crispysqrl and I decided to shoot for distance to see how far we could nail targets....we ended up hitting sheets of paper (8.5 x 11) at over 230 yards!!..10-15knt variable winds.....I honestly was not sure if that was possible out of the 15-22(running CCI Blazer) but suprisingly it did well. pics on the way....


....SO lets hear it....what kind of range is everyone seeing?...
 
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Try this with your 230 yard sheet of paper: 4 shots, with the last being in the air before the first one hits.
 
How many rounds did you fire at that range and target, and how many actually hit?

first few were way off as we were zeroing in.....after finding zero we were able to hit about half on the target....shot about 30 rounds....I blame some of the flyers on wind....maybe ammo too....we will be trying again with calmer winds and different ammos...
 
This isn't based on my own experience, but since buying this gun I've wondered about the range and lethality of the .22. A lot of people, at first thought, see it as a weak round. But I think it is a rather versatile and potentially lethal round.

Maybe this is old news to you guys, but I read this posting by a guy who shot a 22 at a frozen turkey wrapped in three layers of street cloths at a range of 250 and I think also 300 yards. All rounds that hit, penetrated through everything.

Here is the link: Lethality of the 22LR- Results! - Sniper's Hide Forums

There is also these two videos of a guy shooting rock hard avocados at a range of 225 yards:
Pt 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CElxKOv8iPc
Pt 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ZeycTo7iI
 
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Saying the 22lr is "lethal", on a specific target, at 300 yards is a gross overestimate. Shooting at a far target with a 22 just to see if you can do it is fun, just leave it at that and don't exaggerate the cartridges capabilities.
 
Saying the 22lr is "lethal", on a specific target, at 300 yards is a gross overestimate. Shooting at a far target with a 22 just to see if you can do it is fun, just leave it at that and don't exaggerate the cartridges capabilities.

Don't be insulted but did you read that posting? It is pretty interesting.

World English Dictionary
lethal (ˈliːθəl)

— adj
1. able to cause or causing death

So the question is, is the .22 "able" to cause death at that range?
Based on that one guys experiment I'd say yes. Not that I'd choose a .22 for that far of a shot or to kill anything at that range. I just thought that his findings were interesting and bringing of a new respect for the round.
 
That's why I said lethal on a specific target. The bare minimum energy may be there, just like a falling icicle or a BB could be lethal in the right situation. But 300 yards is well beyond the maximum effective range of 22lr, even if it is within it's maximum range.
 
That's why I said lethal on a specific target. The bare minimum energy may be there, just like a falling icicle or a BB could be lethal in the right situation. But 300 yards is well beyond the maximum effective range of 22lr, even if it is within it's maximum range.

I hear ya and it makes sense. Ballistics are really beyond me. I just know it's been a hot topic for people on a lot of survival boards as to "which gun would you take if S.H.T.F. "

And when talking about range, is it really a matter of the gun you are using or the cartridge? I would think the cartridge/powder load and bullet weight...right?
 
I hear ya and it makes sense. Ballistics are really beyond me. I just know it's been a hot topic for people on a lot of survival boards as to "which gun would you take if S.H.T.F. "

And when talking about range, is it really a matter of the gun you are using or the cartridge? I would think the cartridge/powder load and bullet weight...right?

Both are very critical at long ranges. Correct cartridge choice, good ammo, and a good rifle to shoot it.

A 22 rifle is still quite a good choice for a survival gun, precisely for it's low energy. You can shoot small game without damaging too much meat. And remember, a silenced 22 rifle is your #1 choice when the zombiepocalypse comes. :D
 
I do my own suppressors, been building and using them for years, used them in the military, used them in combat, used them on "other occaisions" while in military service, and use them now mostly for my own shooting hobby but have made a few custom's for LE agencies at times. Have even on a few occaisions had a chance to use them in my present LE career.

A lot of these are for .22, some for 5.56, some for 7.62. Having about 29.5 years of experience with testing, selecting, and using, various weapons platforms for and in the military/government/civilian LE, and also being a qualified sniper, I can tell you for a fact, despite what anyone tells you, that the .22 inside of a 300 yard range without suppressor, and inside a 200 yard range with suppressor, can be one of the most lethal rounds there is if employed properly and from the correct platform by a competent sniper or marksman. A lot of people don't realize that, but careful selection of platform and matching ammo is key. A lot of people think that at 200 to 300 yards the lowly little .22 kinda stops working, it doesn't. For soft tissue, maximum range and effective range kinda blur together inside of 300 yards for the .22 and either have no effect on the lethality of the .22 if it reaches its target by the hand of a competent sniper or marksman. I'm not talking about paper shooters either just lobbing rounds at a paper target, i'm talking about people who can tell you before the shot, for example, "the round will impact 1.2 inches below the center of the.....at an angle of 22.3 degrees....and penetrate 3.06 inches deep." and when you go look and measure you find they were 100% correct, these are not center mass shooters.
 
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I drop full sized deer with solid points up to 50 yds quite often. Aiming point is the heart from the side. I have had them drop dead in their tracks so it does penetrate sufficiently. Some have run but not out of my back yard. I used to use .223 but the .22lr does the job with much less noise to disturb the neighbors. It can be used as a survival round.
 
I read the posting and was actually not so surprised.
In my career I have seen quite a few fatal .22 shootings.
I'd not make it my 1st or even 2nd choice for self defense but properly
placed it would be quite effective..IMHO.
 
I read the posting and was actually not so surprised.
In my career I have seen quite a few fatal .22 shootings.
I'd not make it my 1st or even 2nd choice for self defense but properly
placed it would be quite effective..IMHO.

It's really interesting right? I've also heard the .17hmr will penetrate kevlar...

Anyway, Boostcrzy, I apologize. I didn't mean to steer your thread in a different direction. I just thought the info that one guy found out was interesting and somewhat relevant to this thread...
 
I drop full sized deer with solid points up to 50 yds quite often. Aiming point is the heart from the side. I have had them drop dead in their tracks so it does penetrate sufficiently. Some have run but not out of my back yard. I used to use .223 but the .22lr does the job with much less noise to disturb the neighbors. It can be used as a survival round.

Would you ever go for a head shot? I mean, at 50 yards it shouldn't be impossible and it's much more a sure thing as far as dropping the animal...
 
Anyway, Boostcrzy, I apologize. I didn't mean to steer your thread in a different direction. I just thought the info that one guy found out was interesting and somewhat relevant to this thread...

no apolgy needed!...this is exactly the type of info I was looking for....thank you!
 
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