Glock has really shocked me!
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Bowserb
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I carried a G19 for several years. I was never comfortable with lack of a manual safety, and like you, I've never liked triggers with a "dingus". Sadly S&W seems to be joining the dingus club with its newer offerings. The S&W trigger was important and why I bought a 9mm Shield. Anyway, I finally sold my G19. Not six months later I WON a G19 in a drawing I didn't even know I had entered. Since the price was right (-0-) I decided to send it off to Cominolli to install one of their manual safeties (it's supposed to be a DIY job, but I wasn't comfortable with that). The safety works well, doesn't interfere with any operation or take down, and it's both easy to operate and not subject to accidental disabling. I still don't carry the Glock, as it's just a little beyond the size I'm most comfortable carrying all day. Also it still has that dingus.
The G19 in my experience was very reliable. It handles my Federal XM9001 ammo nicely, even though that round's "almost +P" pressures make the recoil noticeably stronger--in spite of which, that combo is my wife's favorite 9mm at the range. (Note: the XM9001 was made for RCMP SWAT and only overruns were available for U.S. consumers. I like it as a hollow point carry round that was reasonably enough priced to also practice with. Sadly, I haven't been able to find it since 2018...good thing I bought a lot at that time. If it shows up again, I'm buying at least 5,000 rounds!)
Terry G
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I loaded it back three times. No go. The primer hit was perfect. I just fired it again ten minutes ago. Same ammunition, no problems. I haven't had a centerfire misfire with anything rifle or pistol in years. Spooked me to say the least, when I considered that COULD have been the round I needed.
They aren't pretty to most, but they do a job and they do it well. I still have two, a 26 and 29. The ubiquitous, inexpensive mags are a plus. 
Jerry in SC
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I had a few over the years, they're tough and reliable. I tried various models with the same results, I don't shoot them well and they don't fit my hand.
Being older makes it more difficult to rack a slide or clear a malfunction. I seem to handle recoil with a revolver better than a semi-auto for some reason.
Being older makes it more difficult to rack a slide or clear a malfunction. I seem to handle recoil with a revolver better than a semi-auto for some reason.
Puller
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Ain't it great living in America where you have choices.
That's a good answer. If you carry them in a full retention holster like LE/Military and treat them like a gun without a manual safety, they are fine. But I prefer a manual safety and I don't like the way they feel when I shoot them.
Sal1950
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Let me make a minor correction, treat them like ANY OTHER gun.
Keep your cotton pickin fingers off the trigger till you have it pointed at somethin needed shootin.
Finger off trigger and out of trigger guard: UNIVERSAL COVER MODE
DirtyShirt
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I own a few Glocks and carry them. I too was shocked that when Glock came out with the 43, 43x & 48 and they didn't have higher capacity. The slimline model share no backward capatibility with previous generations or other models. That would have made it the perfect opprotunity for Glock to introduce a steel 15 round magazine just for the slimline models to compete with the 365. Or a hybrid magazine as we've seen from PSA. So many people have expressed your position about not getting the Glock slimline models because they don't compete in capacity with other manufacturers models. I have the 48 and love it. I'm fine with 10 rounds. Would I like 15 rounds? Yes, but 10 is fine.
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That's true. There are probably more concealed carriers now than ever before bc of the internet. People see it and want to do it. Buying guns, researching guns, getting permits and licenses online makes carrying a gun easier than ever before. That's great but we end up with a lot of people, as you said, who aren't traditional gun people. They end up buying whatever the marketing department is trying to sell this quarter or what ever gun the guy on YouTube promotes this month.
Wimp Man Jimmy CCW a Glock Model 43X 9mm. I use Shield 15 Round Steel Magazizes. It is recommended that you install a steel magazine lock with the steel magazines.
"Get yourself a Glock and get rid of that nickel plated sissy pistol."
(Feel free to quote me on that.)
Mention Glock and the world regurgitates the same old propaganda saws planted by the rest of the industry back in the 1980's. Every one of those companies, in the mean time, hustled their butts off to come up with their own Glock copy... only "better", "safer", featuring radical new "tactical" cuts, horns and "radical" slide serrations. They had to make sure that their new offerings avoided the "mines" they had planted to stop Glock.
Why won't Glock compete with (your brand here) 12th improved version of their innovative masterpiece. (The Bulgarian army has an armored wheelbarrow. When will the US come up with a competitive design?)
Glocks are safe. Others keep trying to make their's ever more idiot proof. The world laughs and makes better idiots.
Repeat, repeat repeatedly. . .
(Feel free to quote me on that.)
Mention Glock and the world regurgitates the same old propaganda saws planted by the rest of the industry back in the 1980's. Every one of those companies, in the mean time, hustled their butts off to come up with their own Glock copy... only "better", "safer", featuring radical new "tactical" cuts, horns and "radical" slide serrations. They had to make sure that their new offerings avoided the "mines" they had planted to stop Glock.
Why won't Glock compete with (your brand here) 12th improved version of their innovative masterpiece. (The Bulgarian army has an armored wheelbarrow. When will the US come up with a competitive design?)
Glocks are safe. Others keep trying to make their's ever more idiot proof. The world laughs and makes better idiots.
Repeat, repeat repeatedly. . .
I don't want this to sound nasty or insulting, but a lot of Glock people seem to believe that Glocks can do things that other pistols can't, and that is just not true.
Sal1950
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The only thing truly innovative about the Glock was their plastic frames making them lighter for high capacity double stack autos. That and their trigger safety. They are no more reliable than the revolvers being used 100 years before.
Glock built their "empire" by selling cheap guns, cheap. They made headway in law enforcement simply because they underbid everyone else. Lowest bid is king in government, particularly by bean counters that don't care about anything else.
My opinion for what its worth: I don't like their products and like their business practices even less. To each his own.
My opinion for what its worth: I don't like their products and like their business practices even less. To each his own.
I never liked the idea of a plastic gun part. Many years ago I shot a friends Glock, it felt like the frame flexed on firing.
Yep, everything about Glock is bad. From the grip to plastic to trigger and they not pretty. Thought same for many years. Then tried a Glock 17 with fiber optic front sight and was hooked. Went from 1911 to Sig 226 then Glock 17 in 3gun for over 25+yr with zero stoppages ever. Go ahead and hate'em but Glock revolutionized the semi automatic handgun and is going strong 45yrs later. Takes some getting used to but it's OK to hate'em. That's why we have chocolate and vanilla...suit yourself.
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"Glock built their "empire" by selling cheap guns, cheap"
I was told by a Glock VP that in the beginning, firearms were traded to some LE organizations straight up for their current issues and even donated straight up to get the product out there.
"I never liked the idea of a plastic gun part. Many years ago I shot a friends Glock, it felt like the frame flexed on firing."
You were correct, there are videos of the Glock 21 model frame flexing when firing.
Decades of service should speak for itself, yet Naysayers still climb onto the soapbox to stir the pot of discord…all while competitors work tirelessly to emulate or improve the design.
I was told by a Glock VP that in the beginning, firearms were traded to some LE organizations straight up for their current issues and even donated straight up to get the product out there.
"I never liked the idea of a plastic gun part. Many years ago I shot a friends Glock, it felt like the frame flexed on firing."
You were correct, there are videos of the Glock 21 model frame flexing when firing.
Decades of service should speak for itself, yet Naysayers still climb onto the soapbox to stir the pot of discord…all while competitors work tirelessly to emulate or improve the design.
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When I decided to get a dedicated CC/HG I was 100% honest with myself. I knew that unless it was easy to carry easy to conceal and I could shoot it well I wasn't going to carry it as often as I should. And the fact I am a big tall XXL guy that starts sweating like a prostitute in church at anything over 75*meant I KNEW a full sized HG and likely even mid sized HGs were out of the question as I live in NW Indiana and from late May till late September I do A LOT of sweating as all my favorite hobbies are moderate to high activity and are out of doors and my normal wardrobe was short sleeved 100% cotton T or collared shirts and shorts.
I did give compact and subcompact Glocks a try but I just do not like in the least how Glocks feel in my hands. No doubt Glock is a 100% great gun just not for me.
That is why I ended up with a Gen-1 Shield as my CC/HG since 2012 as that gun can be carried with absolute zero effort ease as long as I am dressed in anything other than my B-day suit.
And yes I did do a Apex Carry Duty trigger kit upgrade on my Gen-1 Shield ASAP after I got it but only used the Apex Sear and striker block and return spring as the other Apex springs gave my Shield I felt to light of a trigger pull.
Yes I have other purpose designed for CC HG's with 60% to almost double the capacity but they are larger in every dimension and consequently also significantly harder to effectively conceal VS my Shield in my summer wardrobe.
And to this day after 12 years of shooting my Apex modded Gen-1 3.1" Shield I am still amazed at just how well I can shoot it at 15 yards.
Now that I have my 3.1" and 4" 13+1 Shield Plus HGs I no longer must compromise capacity or shootability for concealability. For use as a maximum stealth dedicated concealed carry HG you just can not beat the S&W M&P Shield Plus line of HGs, equal them? yes but not beat.
I did give compact and subcompact Glocks a try but I just do not like in the least how Glocks feel in my hands. No doubt Glock is a 100% great gun just not for me.
That is why I ended up with a Gen-1 Shield as my CC/HG since 2012 as that gun can be carried with absolute zero effort ease as long as I am dressed in anything other than my B-day suit.
And yes I did do a Apex Carry Duty trigger kit upgrade on my Gen-1 Shield ASAP after I got it but only used the Apex Sear and striker block and return spring as the other Apex springs gave my Shield I felt to light of a trigger pull.
Yes I have other purpose designed for CC HG's with 60% to almost double the capacity but they are larger in every dimension and consequently also significantly harder to effectively conceal VS my Shield in my summer wardrobe.
And to this day after 12 years of shooting my Apex modded Gen-1 3.1" Shield I am still amazed at just how well I can shoot it at 15 yards.
Now that I have my 3.1" and 4" 13+1 Shield Plus HGs I no longer must compromise capacity or shootability for concealability. For use as a maximum stealth dedicated concealed carry HG you just can not beat the S&W M&P Shield Plus line of HGs, equal them? yes but not beat.
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Want to see a video that will absolutely blow your mind? Find YT videos of how insane the flexing is of rifle scopes on harsh recoiling rifles. I would have NEVER believed a scope could flex THAT much and not instantly fail.
To try to STILL debate the durability, reliability, safety or accuracy of todays Polymer framed HGs especially Glocks is akin to J***ing off a dead man for the Good Lords sake. The Glock is the worlds most popular semi-auto polymer framed HG with literally over 20,000,000 having been made and sold worldwide since 1982 and no gun since the 1911 was more revolutionary to the world of HGs than the Glock.
No I do not own one because I really do not like the way the feel in my hands, but if A Glock felt as good in my hands as does my Shields or P320's or especially my Walther PDP's you bet your azz I'd own them.
You REALLY want polymer framed perfection? Shoot a Walther PDP and odds are 90% you will like nothing else more or shoot anything better.
First time I shot a 4" Walther PDP Compact two years ago I was left absolutely speechless just how well I shot it. Since I bought a 4" Compact PDP and now a 5" Full sized PDP I only shoot my Shields and my Walthers.
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My Glock is not only 100% dependable but it also can bake a cherry pie, bread, and clean windows and floors.
Sal1950
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Sounds like you did everything possible to make that round go BANG, strange?
But OTOH, the last thing they say was perfect got nailed up on a cross for his outstanding way.
Crap just happens as they say.
Same with the prettier PPQs. Only striker fired pistols I own.
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As I sit here on my sofa, my Glock 19 is out cutting my front lawn.
None of my 1911s ever offered to take part in this task. They just lay there in the safe.
None of my 1911s ever offered to take part in this task. They just lay there in the safe.
That's cause the 1911's are 100+ and Glocks only 40+ but never take the 1911 for granted...it's still King of the domain.
I've sold a few Glocks, I recently zeroed a 10mm Glock for a fellow with a red dot sight. In my experience, I have upgraded more Glock triggers than any other firearm in the last 20 years. In an apples to apples comparison, the Ruger RXM has a better factory trigger than the Glock. I have always been pleased with the S&W M&P trigger of the 40 SW M&P Compact.
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I actually did own a Glock 17 briefly. But being Canadian, I couldn't take advantage of the 17+1 (?) capacity. Suped up the trigger. Still a spongy piece of crap. Surprised by its accuracy but I'm not a TupperWare gun fanboy. Just ain't right. USA made so no cache of Austria either. And it wasn't cheap. So I sold it. Much happier with heavier metal real guns with triggers that I can improve and manipulate. Glock is way overrated.
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A Glock looks like the box the Hi Power comes in.
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