Glock has really shocked me!

[DartonJager]

When I decided to get a dedicated CC/HG I was 100% honest with myself. I knew that unless it was easy to carry easy to conceal and I could shoot it well I wasn't going to carry it as often as I should. And the fact I am a big tall XXL guy that starts sweating like a prostitute in church at anything over 75*meant I KNEW a full sized HG and likely even mid sized HGs were out of the question as I live in NW Indiana and from late May till late September I do A LOT of sweating as all my favorite hobbies are moderate to high activity and are out of doors and my normal wardrobe was short sleeved 100% cotton T or collared shirts and shorts.

I did give compact and subcompact Glocks a try but I just do not like in the least how Glocks feel in my hands. No doubt Glock is a 100% great gun just not for me.

That is why I ended up with a Gen-1 Shield as my CC/HG since 2012 as that gun can be carried with absolute zero effort ease as long as I am dressed in anything other than my B-day suit.

And yes I did do a Apex Carry Duty trigger kit upgrade on my Gen-1 Shield ASAP after I got it but only used the Apex Sear and striker block and return spring as the other Apex springs gave my Shield I felt to light of a trigger pull.

Yes I have other purpose designed for CC HG's with 60% to almost double the capacity but they are larger in every dimension and consequently also significantly harder to effectively conceal VS my Shield in my summer wardrobe.

And to this day after 12 years of shooting my Apex modded Gen-1 3.1" Shield I am still amazed at just how well I can shoot it at 15 yards.

Now that I have my 3.1" and 4" 13+1 Shield Plus HGs I no longer must compromise capacity or shootability for concealability. For use as a maximum stealth dedicated concealed carry HG you just can not beat the S&W M&P Shield Plus line of HGs, equal them? yes but not beat.

 

[DartonJager]

I totally agree with the manual safety aspect. I have a Glock, but would never edc one because of that.
To not have a safety on something with a trigger pull that light is asking for trouble and I would bet striker fired weapons of this sort are responsible for a vast majority of accidental discharges.

“Glock built their "empire" by selling cheap guns, cheap”

I was told by a Glock VP that in the beginning, firearms were traded to some LE organizations straight up for their current issues and even donated straight up to get the product out there.


“I never liked the idea of a plastic gun part. Many years ago I shot a friends Glock, it felt like the frame flexed on firing.”

You were correct, there are videos of the Glock 21 model frame flexing when firing.

Decades of service should speak for itself, yet Naysayers still climb onto the soapbox to stir the pot of discord…all while competitors work tirelessly to emulate or improve the design.

Want to see a video that will absolutely blow your mind? Find YT videos of how insane the flexing is of rifle scopes on harsh recoiling rifles. I would have NEVER believed a scope could flex THAT much and not instantly fail.

To try to STILL debate the durability, reliability, safety or accuracy of todays Polymer framed HGs especially Glocks is akin to J***ing off a dead man for the Good Lords sake. The Glock is the worlds most popular semi-auto HG with literally over 20,000,000 having been made and sold worldwide since 1982 and no gun since the 1911 was more revolutionary to the world of HGs than the Glock.
No I do not own one because I really do not like the way the feel in my hands, but if A Glock felt as good in my hands as does my Shields or P320's or especially my Walther PDP's you bet your azz I'd own them.

You REALLY want polymer framed perfection? Shoot a Walther PDP and odds are 90% you will like nothing else more or shoot anything better.
First time I shot a 4" Walther PDP Compact two years ago I was left absolutely speechless just how well I shot it. Since I bought a 4" Compact PDP and now a 5" Full sized PDP I only shoot my Shields and my Walthers.

 

[jimmyj]

I don't want this to sound nasty or insulting, but a lot of Glock people seem to believe that Glocks can do things that other pistols can't, and that is just not true.

My Glock is not only 100% dependable but it also can bake a cherry pie, bread, and clean windows and floors.

 

[Sal1950]

I loaded it back three times. No go. The primer hit was perfect. I just fired it again ten minutes ago. Same ammunition, no problems. I haven't had a centerfire misfire with anything rifle or pistol in years. Spooked me to say the least, when I considered that COULD have been the round I needed.

Sounds like you did everything possible to make that round go BANG, strange?
But OTOH, the last thing they say was perfect got nailed up on a cross for his outstanding way.
Crap just happens as they say.

 

[9Mary7]

You REALLY want polymer framed perfection? Shoot a Walther PDP and odds are 90% you will like nothing else more or shoot anything better.

Same with the prettier PPQs. Only striker fired pistols I own.

 

[Benton Quest]

As I sit here on my sofa, my Glock 19 is out cutting my front lawn.

None of my 1911s ever offered to take part in this task. They just lay there in the safe.

 

[DixieRanger]

That's cause the 1911's are 100+ and Glocks only 40+ but never take the 1911 for granted...it's still King of the domain.

 

[SASFixer]

I don't want this to sound nasty or insulting, but a lot of Glock people seem to believe that Glocks can do things that other pistols can't, and that is just not true.

I've sold a few Glocks, I recently zeroed a 10mm Glock for a fellow with a red dot sight. In my experience, I have upgraded more Glock triggers than any other firearm in the last 20 years. In an apples to apples comparison, the Ruger RXM has a better factory trigger than the Glock. I have always been pleased with the S&W M&P trigger of the 40 SW M&P Compact.

 

[MaverickDMD]

This has been a Glock-free household ever since I discovered the Walther line of striker-fired pistols like the P99 and the PPS. Sold all the Glocks and never, ever looked back.

I actually did own a Glock 17 briefly. But being Canadian, I couldn’t take advantage of the 17+1 (?) capacity. Suped up the trigger. Still a spongy piece of crap. Surprised by its accuracy but I’m not a TupperWare gun fanboy. Just ain’t right. USA made so no cache of Austria either. And it wasn’t cheap. So I sold it. Much happier with heavier metal real guns with triggers that I can improve and manipulate. Glock is way overrated.

 

[MaverickDMD]

Yep, everything about Glock is bad. From the grip to plastic to trigger and they not pretty. Thought same for many years. Then tried a Glock 17 with fiber optic front sight and was hooked. Went from 1911 to Sig 226 then Glock 17 in 3gun for over 25+yr with zero stoppages ever. Go ahead and hate'em but Glock revolutionized the semi automatic handgun and is going strong 45yrs later. Takes some getting used to but it's OK to hate'em. That's why we have chocolate and vanilla...suit yourself.

A Glock looks like the box the Hi Power comes in.

 

[DixieRanger]

Got a Belgian Browning High Power in 1969. Lot prettier than my G17 but not as accurate. Wish i'da saved the box

 

[bph9]

I never liked the idea of a plastic gun part. Many years ago I shot a friends Glock, it felt like the frame flexed on firing.

You are correct. High speed photos show the front of the frame bends upward under recoil and is stopped when it hits the underside of the barrel.