Full auto 15-22!!!

smoothice · #1 02-06-2012, 10:14 AM

A guy at the range had a FULL AUTO 15-22. Of course, he admitted that he "modified" it, at a cost of almost the gun itself! I was pretty cool. What do you think he did to it?

Snyderman · #2 02-06-2012, 10:20 AM

Unless he paid much more than the price of the gun in licensing and taxes, he is asking for legal woes.

crawlewe · #3 02-06-2012, 10:30 AM

He could have been using a Slide Fire stock, in which case it was a bump fire and not a true full auto.

tork'd · #4 02-06-2012, 10:43 AM

rubberband??

smoothice · #5 02-06-2012, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crawlewe

He could have been using a Slide Fire stock, in which case it was a bump fire and not a true full auto.

Yes, I think that's correct...his stock LOOKED different, and his grip "moved" back and forth...what is this contraption?

trukreltrog · #6 02-06-2012, 11:10 AM

Slidefire stock,,,

Low_Down · #7 02-06-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothice

Yes, I think that's correct...his stock LOOKED different, and his grip "moved" back and forth...what is this contraption?

It's full retarded

JaPes · #8 02-06-2012, 03:13 PM

As others have said, it's most likely a Slide Fire Stock. From what I've read here, they take a little modification to work on a M&P 15-22.

Looks like fun, but I'm not about to plunk down $370 + tax for one.

If it isn't a slide fire stock and he modified his 15-22 to full auto without jumping through the BATFE hoops & taxes, that full auto 15-22 is a one way ticket to club fed.

Breechloader · #9 02-06-2012, 03:55 PM

Maybe it was one of these?

Juvicator · #10 02-06-2012, 04:12 PM

Nope. I've seen that one before. It's the low end model, doesn't have the glade tacticandle attachment.

NKJ nut · #11 02-06-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JaPes

If it isn't a slide fire stock and he modified his 15-22 to full auto without jumping through the BATFE hoops & taxes, that full auto 15-22 is a one way ticket to club fed.

There are NO legal paths to civilian ownership of a post may '86 machinegun. Those are restricted to law enforcement and government use. A Class 3 dealer could have one as a dealer sample to show to law enforcement.

An individual who converted a 15-22 to full auto would be in violation of the National Firearms Act; Period. As he would not qualify for any of the few exemptions.

redbos · #12 02-06-2012, 04:46 PM

As he said, my friend has converted one but he is a Class 03/07 FFL. He can covert current models only as "Post Samples" that only C3 dealers can own or as demo guns for Govt/Police Departments. The if they wrote you a letter and get it approved from ATF, you can make Post Samples for that agency only... MG's that civilians can own have to be a on Form 3/4 and made before 1986 which was the cutoff date for civilian ownership.....

Otherwise, 10 years in Prison should keep most folks from trying something so stupid! Works for me, I just go and shoot my buddies with all his licenses and paperwork!

Quote:

Originally Posted by NKJ nut

There are NO legal paths to civilian ownership of a post may '86 machinegun. Those are restricted to law enforcement and government use. A Class 3 dealer could have one as a dealer sample to show to law enforcement.

An individual who converted a 15-22 to full auto would be in violation of the National Firearms Act; Period. As he would not qualify for any of the few exemptions.

Triton225 · #13 04-20-2012, 12:07 AM

So, on a new rifle you can't get it converted to select fire and apply for a class 3 license or tax stamp deal?

Hack · #14 04-20-2012, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Triton225

So, on a new rifle you can't get it converted to select fire and apply for a class 3 license or tax stamp deal?

In a word: NO.

As posted, only SOT Class 3 FFL's can possess post '86 fully automatic weapons and those with, (IIRC) Type 7 or 10, can manufacture them. In either case, you would have to have the proper license before the fact.

Get caught with one, without the proper papers/tax stamp(s), and it can be up to 10 years hard time in a federal prison.

Search: David R. Olofson for info on the bad do-do that can befall you.

Bottom line: If you want a sub-machine gun, machine gun, SBR, AOW, or anything under the NFA, do it the right way.

Triton225 · #15 04-20-2012, 10:21 AM

Thats too bad, A M&P 15-22 full auto or 3rd burst would be the coolest. You could actually afford to feed it.

cgt4570 · #16 04-20-2012, 10:41 AM

Plus a $100,000 federal fine!

stavman11 · #17 04-20-2012, 11:05 AM

Slide fire is FULL RETARDED fun.....

All it is... makes me SMILE every time I chase my reactive Ball with 25rds of LEAD in 1 burst......

Nice to LOCK it into single fire as well..... for PLINKING and such

Not going to get TOO Many Cyotes or Squirls on FULL AUTO... but ZOMBIES dont stand a chance

LOL

Stav

rather-b-huntin · #18 04-20-2012, 11:13 PM

Shot my buddy's slidefire 15-22 this evening.

Gettin one for mine!! Nearest! Gun! Ever!!!

roadkill45 · #19 04-21-2012, 12:49 AM

please explain or post pics of the "rubber band" mod/bump fire that was mentioned in the post. legal full auto fire would be nice with a bag of .99 cent rubber bands instead of an almost $400 stock which i am not about to pay for. thanx ahead of time.

nonamehaveI · #20 04-21-2012, 06:49 AM

ATF classifies rubber bands as illegal machine gun parts.

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strobro32 · #21 04-21-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nonamehaveI

ATF classifies rubber bands as illegal machine gun parts.

The Tech branch has classified a particular shoe string design as a MG.
shoestringhttp://jpfo.org/images02/shoestring.jpg

Bump firing is legal. I've seen a few determination letters that said rubber bands are NOT MGs. Rubber bands are often mentioned in multiple determination letters as an approved method of bump firing.

bump firing http://jpfo.org/images02/batfe-lee-bumpfire.jpg

Of course... determination letters are only relevant for the owner of the letter and they can change their position with every letter. Letter writing is frowned upon in the NFA collecting world. Asking the BATFE for these determination letters is making them create policy/law.

The BATFE is an agency who gets to be all three branches of the gov.

tork'd · #22 04-21-2012, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadkill45

please explain or post pics of the "rubber band" mod/bump fire that was mentioned in the post. legal full auto fire would be nice with a bag of .99 cent rubber bands instead of an almost $400 stock which i am not about to pay for. thanx ahead of time.

see NKJ nut's post
i do not like suits ringing my door bell

grg3d · #23 04-21-2012, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nonamehaveI

ATF classifies rubber bands as illegal machine gun parts.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by strobro32

The Tech branch has classified a particular shoe string design as a MG. I've seen a determination letter that said a rubber band in not a MG. Can't find it right now.
bump firing http://jpfo.org/images02/batfe-lee-bumpfire.jpg

Bump firing is approved method. Rubber bands are often mentioned in multiple letters as an approved method of bump firing.

shoestringhttp://jpfo.org/images02/shoestring.jpg

Of course... determination letters are only relevant for the owner of the letter and they can change their position with every letter. Letter writing is frowned upon in the NFA world. Asking the BATFE for these determination letters is making them create policy/law.

The BATFE is an agency who gets to be all three branched of the gov.

Well there goes my coffee....all over the place...thanks....

BenDayho949 · #24 04-22-2012, 01:37 PM

The rubber band mod didnt work on the 15-22lr. At least not from my observations. Maybe it was the band itself. It can also have something to do with the pull weight on a stock trigger assembly.