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first coyote kill with Performance Center M&P 15-22
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You must live in a city.
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I'm not a big fan of killing for sport but Coyote, Opossums, Raccoons are fair game in my book. They cause a lot of problems
Majorlk
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True, but they are not always an open-season pest. In Texas, there is an actual squirrel season.
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My dog got attacked by a coyote and it cost me 550 dollars at the vet to get him taken care of. Two days later the coyote killed my other dog and now the one who survived is terrified to be outside. so he is pooping all in my house and garage. I hate coyotes and I would love to get rid of them at my place.
Majorlk
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When I was living in Texas we had a herd of cattle on our church camp property. When the calves started to drop every spring the coyotes would show up in packs to attack the new calves. We would have to kill a couple of dozen of them before they would leave the calves alone. Still, we would lose a calf or two in the process.
I put them in the same category as rats, moles and cock roaches - they serve no useful purpose except to provide moving targets.
The only people who want to protect coyotes are city-slickers.
crracer_712
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Apparently you haven't had chickens before.
wolf3533
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good shot yes they do alot of damage and kill alot of small pets i would do the same if they came close to my house too, so good for you
MMA_FAN
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I agree, a coyote is definitely a pest or varmint and needs to be removed from someones property for safety reasons alone. Having said that and not to bark up your tree or anything but i have never shot anything that large with a 22lr. Did it go down in 1 shot and may i ask why you would not use a .223 or .17hmr or something a bit more powerful than the .22lr for it? Either way nice kill and happy hunting.
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Like I said, if it's threatening you or you want to eat it, I'm fine with it, but killing for the sake of it is just wrong. "Threatening" is broadly defined, and can of course cover defense of pets or livestock, but shooting a coyote just because you see it is just wrong. There was no context provided by the OP, so I assume it was just because he saw it.
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crracer_712
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I've had lots, between coyotes, owls, opossum, raccooj and neighbors dogs, I have none.
When to are in the country and have experienced loss of live stock and or pets, when you see something like this, you tend to kill it, not watch it and see if its going to bother anything AT THAT moment.
I had a father in law with your attitude towards such things. He had no problem trapping cats, they bothered his wild rabbits, and turning them loose elsewhere. That somewhere else affects someone else, but that didn't bother him. Funny how humans care more for animals than they do their own kind.
When to are in the country and have experienced loss of live stock and or pets, when you see something like this, you tend to kill it, not watch it and see if its going to bother anything AT THAT moment.
I had a father in law with your attitude towards such things. He had no problem trapping cats, they bothered his wild rabbits, and turning them loose elsewhere. That somewhere else affects someone else, but that didn't bother him. Funny how humans care more for animals than they do their own kind.
According to Arizona Game and Fish, coyotes are having a significant impact on antelope and deer populations in some areas. Hunting them is a legitimate game management tool.
And the one on question wouldn't be any less dead if the OP ate it.
it was the .22lr that i had in my hand at the time,,,, as for a .17HMR that lil round is more hype then fact
, just like the 5.7x28the 5.7x28 so called cop killer is nothing more than a much weaker 5.56x45
on small game sure the .17 is murder but on fleshy targes the rib alone on the coyote would have stopped that round
17 grains of led just isnt enough to have the sufficent amount of kinetic energy, not saying it cant kill a coyote just saying in real world hunting the .17 just isn't humane on any thing larger than a squirrel or small rabbit
now .223 is just freaking loud lol and this was around 3am or so
coyote is kinda at the top of the kill scale for a humane kill for any rimfire
but this coyote only made it about 6-8 feet from where she was shot and the time it took me to make the 55 yard walk she wasn't moving or making any noise which is why i couldn't find her till morning,,, she fell just behind a downed tree and was in the shadow of it while i was searching,,, i was right next to that same tree while looking but didn't care to walk in to the think brush to look for what could be a wounded wild coyote,,,, that's just asking for trouble
she was down and dead almost immediately
Gopher Slayer
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That's all the reason a man needs when he's witnessed multiple coyotes taking down a newborn calf, family pet, or hurting the deer population.
crracer_712
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Actually, around here, Deer are so thick, coyotes bothering them, doesn't bother me.
In kansas, you can get Deer nuisance permits to shoot deer, and leave them lay. They cannot be eaten or otherwise touched.
In kansas, you can get Deer nuisance permits to shoot deer, and leave them lay. They cannot be eaten or otherwise touched.
So I have to see the coyote kill a chicken, dog, cat, deer, etc. first before I get rid of it....
Are you a defense lawyer living in a big city?
ol' geeser
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In the winter of '63 and on numerous occasions since, I witnessed coyotes actually killing calves AS they were being born. One or two would then distract the cow as a couple more would drag the carcass off a safe distance for lunch.
Once the calf can stand, horned cows will fight to kill coyotes and pigs to protect their calf....
For the record, I have seen vultures use the same technique when times are tough. Both creatures serve well as disposers of carrion and small pests...but when the usual food sources are short due to drought, cold, or human incursion they will do what has to be done to feed their family.....they don't have access to FOOD STAMPS, WIC,and other entitlements....they eat or they die- really simple-
The half dozen or so I can kill a year around my place won't make a dent in the overall population, but they will learn not to come into the yard are horse pastures.
Hogs are a completely different thing.....
Once the calf can stand, horned cows will fight to kill coyotes and pigs to protect their calf....
For the record, I have seen vultures use the same technique when times are tough. Both creatures serve well as disposers of carrion and small pests...but when the usual food sources are short due to drought, cold, or human incursion they will do what has to be done to feed their family.....they don't have access to FOOD STAMPS, WIC,and other entitlements....they eat or they die- really simple-
The half dozen or so I can kill a year around my place won't make a dent in the overall population, but they will learn not to come into the yard are horse pastures.
Hogs are a completely different thing.....
Majorlk
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There are only two kinds of coyotes - those who have killed pets and/or livestock and those that haven't yet. It's called preventive measures.
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