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Old 08-05-2013, 11:17 PM
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I shot several different brands of ammo at the range to see what the gun likes. When it came to the golden bullets, the gun was smoking when I was done and smell funny. After seeing the video, you can see that some of the rounds sound different and release smoke around the bolt.

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Old 08-05-2013, 11:33 PM
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i think the cycle rate was faster than the gun could keep up with.
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They cycle slower. Smell different. And in the video you can see that some rounds fire off different.

Here are the federals firing off really fast. Both vids were shot the same day. I was trying different ammo, and the golden bullet is something odd.

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I believe that the Golden Bullets need to be run through a Gen4 Flux Capacitor prior to being loaded into the magazine. That should increase your rate of fire and cause the smoke to reverse-osmosis itself into molecules which primarily include nitrogen and oxygen as well as water, and carbon dioxide. Therefore, causing the smoke to escape through the hole in the ozone layer and away from the 15-22.
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Unfortunately with the rate that manufacturers are pushing out ammo now days. There has been some half stepping going on.

I went through 2 of those 375rd boxes of CCI mini-mag HP over the weekend. Each box was giving me the same symptoms as u stated above. Some of the rounds barely made a sound at all. Almost sounded like i had just squeezed off a CB cap. 15/22 was considerably dirty compared to the usual run of the mill CCI ammo after a trip to the range.

So with that being said, thats just the way things are going now days. We win some, we lose some.
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Old 08-06-2013, 03:28 AM
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The only thing New and Improved about the Goldern Bullets is the box.
That is how they preform in my 15-22. I avoid buy them.

I shot several hundered rounds of Winchester Sunday with only one FTF; put that round right back in and it fired.

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Old 08-06-2013, 11:26 AM
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About 2 months ago, I bought 1,500 rounds of the stuff and after hearing about their poor performance, I sold it off.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that is having a problem with the Golden Bullet. Thanks for the comments!
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About 2 months ago, I bought 1,500 rounds of the stuff and after hearing about their poor performance, I sold it off.
Did you bother trying it before you got rid of it? Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
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I have owned 3-"Buckets" along with several 525 ct. boxes. These have been used in two M&P22 and one Buckmark with no problems. So, I have no complaints.... Have fun and clean your gun....
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I shot several different brands of ammo at the range to see what the gun likes. When it came to the golden bullets, the gun was smoking when I was done and smell funny. After seeing the video, you can see that some of the rounds sound different and release smoke around the bolt.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zdpjey39sc...denbullets.mp4

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Now it seems CCI and yep Blazer passed them up.
Rem RF has given me more misfires than any other so I avoid it like poison.
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Shot many boxes of the golden bullet and guess I'm lucky that stuff work in the 15-22 and cycles the 22 pistols. Impact is pretty much where you line up. Now if I'm trying to make a 4 leaf cover on the target, I'll slip in some match ammo. But for blasting and having fun (what a 22 is made for) the golden bullet 22's do a pretty good job for me. A lot of the stuff I'm shooting is 4-6 years old not new production.
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I'm with billwill - Golden bullets aren't the most reliable, but good enough for practice sessions and blasting away at a mostly reasonable price. I have shot several boxes through my 15-22 and M&P 22.
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The guy that sold me my 15-22 specifically told me to stay away from golden bullets. I have a brick and just for gits a shiggles I will have to run a mag through it tomorrow and see what happens.
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I believe that the Golden Bullets need to be run through a Gen4 Flux Capacitor prior to being loaded into the magazine. That should increase your rate of fire and cause the smoke to reverse-osmosis itself into molecules which primarily include nitrogen and oxygen as well as water, and carbon dioxide. Therefore, causing the smoke to escape through the hole in the ozone layer and away from the 15-22.
This is essentially the correct assesment of the perceived anomaly.
This is confirmed by isolating a sample pre- and post- reverse osmosis, and channelling it throuh the high pressure liquid chomatograph (HPLC). The differential will help in determining a suitable starting point for remedeation.
Once the molecular resonance frequency is established, it is a simple matter to regulate and adjust the cyclic rate.
Duck soup.
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Bucket O Bullets 22LR

I just shot 400-500 rounds through my M&P 22 the other day without any problem at all. Have not tried them yet in the 15-22.

Didn't notice any difference than any other bulk rounds. The gun was a tad bit dirtier, but not by much - I always clean (and FrogLube) after each shooting session anyways.
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The last time I shot the Golden Bullets: I had one round the had very little felt recoil, very little report. I stopped shooting, dropped the mag and broke the gun open. Pulled the bolt out and looked down the bore to ensure there was not a round in the barrel. That was enough for me to stay away from them.

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Nowadays, .22 LR ammo is so hard to find in any quantity at all that I buy whatever I see regardless of if it is what is top of the line, etc. So... the last time I found ammo it was Rem. GB's. I bought it. I shot it in my 15-22. It fed, fired and ejected without issue. POI relative to POA was identical for that obtained with other brands of .22 LR ammo. YMMV.
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Remington Golden Bullets are good to go here in several different pistols, revolvers, and rifles.
No more problems than any other ammo.
When we have problems, it is usually from a gun or magazine related problem, not the ammo.
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I'll keep the rounds for my revolver. They will still be used.
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Did you bother trying it before you got rid of it? Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
No, I never did try them.
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No, I never did try them.
Then how do YOU know they are no good in YOUR rifle.
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I don't buy them anymore.

I used them in three 10/22's, two 15-22's, a model 62a, a 77/22, and a P22 in the last five years. They gave me the most cycling issues(in the semi-autos) out of any bulk ammunition, and each round had a different report. They were also the least accurate.

Some boxes were better than others, but I got sick of missing gophers and worrying about squibs.

I don't doubt that some people have never had any issues with them, but that tells me the quality is inconsistent and not worth buying.
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Then how do YOU know they are no good in YOUR rifle.
As for me, if I hear enough reports of inconsistent quality with a product, I will stay away without trying. Because of what I've read on this forum, I have always passed on purchasing this ammo. It just might work in my gun but it is not worth the gamble. Granted, if I already had it, I'm sure I would have tried it.
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anybody want to "Dump" their Golden Bullet stash, feel free to contact me

I'll buy at the right price
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Are u guys having more trouble with the 525rd boxes or the 550rd boxes. I know it sounds like a weird question, but the 525rd box is the only one i've had issues with when i manage to have issues with golden bullets. The 550rd box seems to work just fine.

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I have a bucket of 1400 rounds and I ran several hundred thru my revolvers and a semi auto S&W22A with absolutely no problems what-so- ever. I thought it shot great and was very happy with it. I believe some folks are just either too hard to please or they think too much about inconsequential stuff.
I`ll gladly take all of your lousy golden bullets .
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I have never had any issues with Golden Bullets in my 15-22 however, I still prefer Winchester M22's.
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Are u guys having more trouble with the 525rd boxes or the 550rd boxes. I know it sounds like a weird question, but the 525rd box is the only one i've had issues with when i manage to have issues with golden bullets. The 550rd box seems to work just fine.
The only difference between the two is the packaging and amount ... different packaging for different retail distribution channels. The ammo itself is identical.
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Must be similiar to some of the CCI ammo i've had. Its all batch specific and some batches have problems where as others dont.

I had one of those 325rd boxes of mini-mag that just made me want to quit shooting for the rest of the evening. The other 325rd box i shot had no problems at all.

Now these Golden Bullets are the same way. 525rd box gives a few problems and the 550rd box gives no problems.
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Anybody notice that they smell different? Just askin----

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I often wonder why no one reads their owners manual. It has a list of ammo to not use. And Golden Bullets are included in that list. I have to laugh people don't read the manual and then complain when things go as the manual says it will go. Read the manual. It has information you could find useful, and prevent future headaches.
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This is essentially the correct assesment of the perceived anomaly.
This is confirmed by isolating a sample pre- and post- reverse osmosis, and channelling it throuh the high pressure liquid chomatograph (HPLC). The differential will help in determining a suitable starting point for remedeation.
Once the molecular resonance frequency is established, it is a simple matter to regulate and adjust the cyclic rate.
Duck soup.
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But you still will have to properly trim the framitz spring to adjust the interselective compensatory cam group; and that's the really tricky part, or the projectile will become insegrevious along its flight path, particularly in the winter.

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My SR22P eats them like candy... in fact, out of the bulk ammo, except for Blazer, it likes them best. Federal is pretty good and Winchester bulk often cause it to short-cycle, firing, ejecting, but not picking up the next round from the magazine. (My brother's Sig Mosquito refuses to cycle Winchester). As someone else mentioned, even CCI will occasionally hiccup. Some guns prefer some ammunition, especially rim-fires.
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I often wonder why no one reads their owners manual. It has a list of ammo to not use. And Golden Bullets are included in that list. I have to laugh people don't read the manual and then complain when things go as the manual says it will go. Read the manual. It has information you could find useful, and prevent future headaches.
The reason is that the lists in the manual are several years old. They have never been updated since the first printing and do not include 90 percent of today's ammo. The lists were compiled on customer's comments, not any testing by S&W.

Plainly put, the lists are useless. And, BTW, no where in the manual does it give a list of ammo not to use; the phrase in not recommended. Big difference.
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I often wonder why no one reads their owners manual. It has a list of ammo to not use. And Golden Bullets are included in that list. I have to laugh people don't read the manual and then complain when things go as the manual says it will go. Read the manual. It has information you could find useful, and prevent future headaches.
Do u think that explains why i've had problems with CCI mini-mags as much or worse then i've had with Golden Bullets.
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Do u think that explains why i've had problems with CCI mini-mags as much or worse then i've had with Golden Bullets.
The list in the manual have nothing to do with anything. They are a joke and no reflection of the quality of any ammo.
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The reason is that the lists in the manual are several years old. They have never been updated since the first printing and do not include 90 percent of today's ammo. The lists were compiled on customer's comments, not any testing by S&W.

Plainly put, the lists are useless. And, BTW, no where in the manual does it give a list of ammo not to use; the phrase in not recommended. Big difference.
I stand corrected. Thanks for the info. I was incorrect. This time.
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Do u think that explains why i've had problems with CCI mini-mags as much or worse then i've had with Golden Bullets.
Nope. It doesn't.

I am using the golden bullets right now. Only because it is all I have and can't find anything else. I will say, they are working in mine. Not as accurate as the CCI I had though. And they are a lot dirtier. But better than nothing.
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Shoots great in All My 22s, I got some 5,3 & 2 year old bricks, The new are the 525s ; ) PS Good Luck & Stay Safe
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Old 08-09-2013, 05:14 AM
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anybody want to "Dump" their Golden Bullet stash, feel free to contact me

I'll buy at the right price
Too late, I just gave away two and a half of the 525 round value packs of them two weeks ago just to get rid of them. Told my buddy no charge cause if they damage any of his firearms I don't want to hear about it.
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My 15-22 appears to be quite ammo sensitive as far as the GB are concerned. I've tried three different boxes of Golden Bullets bought at different times and different places. One box was purchased when I bought the gun, one at a gun show and another at Acadamy Sports. First round I ever fed into the rifle was a fail to fire and in shooting around 750 rounds, I consistently got fails to fire, feed and eject. I have no problem with CCI Mini-Mags, a brick of old Federal Classics, Federal bulk or the old half brick PMC Zappers. I ended up combining the last two boxes of GB I had and selling them to a friend who was in desperate need of some .22LR. I won't be buying anymore of them unless they are the only ammo available on earth and I'm completely out.

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Old 08-11-2013, 10:09 AM
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I have put well over 1500 rds of Golden Bullets through my 15-22 with maybe 3 FTF (if my memory serves me correct - getting old sucks). My 10-22 takedown also has had absolutely no issues with Golden Bullets.
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Does anybody have the scoop on the "New and improved" Golden Bullets?
My old bulk packs would give me about 1 out of 50 failures to fire but the new stuff seams to be much better and if I remember correctly they all went bang.
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All the ones I've ever have in way or another convinced my they are for plinking and any other informal shooting I might get into. When I first got my 1522 the GB shells were all I hag with me on the first time out. Needless to say it was a bad day. They caused several FTC and I even had an oob they scared the **** out me. It actually happened twice with this ammo. I did finally take it out with some federal and some Winchester. I still had problems with the GB,s and another oob. I eventually sent the gun back because if the oob,s . The S&W factory put the upgraded parts in it. I got it back and have since then shot the gb,s with no problems other than very inaccurate from my particular rifle. I do hear the difference in report from shell to shell

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Does anybody have the scoop on the "New and improved" Golden Bullets?
My old bulk packs would give me about 1 out of 50 failures to fire but the new stuff seams to be much better and if I remember correctly they all went bang.
10 failures out of a whole box of 525 really isnt bad odds. I had more failures then that out of a 375rd box of CCI mini-mags.

Nothing new and improved about the new golden bullets except for the box.
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They have a well deserved bad rep but as scarce is 22 is
you have to make a choice,I had some failures to fire in a
semi auto rifle that had good dents put them in a K22
revolver they all went off fine. Pete



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I ran two mags through mine today and I had a failure to feed and bent one half way through the first mag. Second one ran fine but looks like what the guy that sold me mine said about golden bullets is true.
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