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Confused about what 15/22 trigger to get

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I need some help. I have read everything I can find about triggers for my 15/22. Most of the ones I see say not for 22lr including Timney and Victory. I am not handy and need an easy install. Any suggestions that would give a good trigger for steel challenge? I would appreciate any help you can give.
 
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I called CMC. I have a slide fire and they recommended their 2.5lbs competition trigger. It's a drop in and runs fine.
 
CMC all the way IMO. I tried a Rise Armament and it was too light and read the JMT was the same.

I installed the CMC Lantac ECT1 and it has worked flawlessly. Very easy install as well. For better assurance I also bought and installed KNS anti rotation pins for the 15-22.
 
Thanks for your replies. I think CMC will be the choice with me. I am waiting to order but from everything I read and hear, it seems a good choice (with the correct pins). Thank you so much!!
 
It really doesn't answer your question...but I was running a Rock River 2-stage in mine and eventually landed up switching back to stock, it didn't really make that large of a difference.

On a side note...I'm not sure if they run with a 15-22 or not, but I recently got a LaRue MBT and it is superb for the $99 they're asking for it.
 
Does anyone read the OP's question?

"Any suggestions that would give a good trigger for steel challenge?"

No one who actually shoots steel challenge would recommend a two stage trigger.

You do want a trigger group with a short reset and an original or heavier hammer fall for reliability.

I do shoot Steel Challenge and Rimfire Challenge etc with my 15-22's.
I run a Geissele SD-3G trigger with (longer) 901 Colt hammer/trigger pins.
Super Dynamic 3 Gun (SD-3G) Trigger
Trigger & Hammer Pins For COLT 901
 
Does anyone read the OP's question?

"Any suggestions that would give a good trigger for steel challenge?"

No one who actually shoots steel challenge would recommend a two stage trigger.

You do want a trigger group with a short reset and an original or heavier hammer fall for reliability.



I do shoot Steel Challenge and Rimfire Challenge etc with my 15-22's.
I run a Geissele SD-3G trigger with (longer) 901 Colt hammer/trigger pins.
Super Dynamic 3 Gun (SD-3G) Trigger
Trigger & Hammer Pins For COLT 901

I should’ve read the question. Didn’t see the steel challenge part. Most everything I do a 2 stage is great. Just put a SD-C in my Sig PM 400.
 
Buy once, cry once and get the Hiperfire 24C...simply as it has an amazingly short, crisp, break and the hardest hammer fall available...speedy enough for steel challenge and with the added bonus of not having to worry about light strikes at all, couple that with KNS 15-22 anti walk pins an you have a fast, reliable and safe FCG that will make you smile each time you use it.
 
...get the Hiperfire 24C...simply as it has an amazingly short, crisp, break and the hardest hammer fall available....
Really? Hiperfire states that you get "higher hammer energy than stock" ONLY with the "plain" toggle springs.
However, as an accessory, they do offer "Heavy, Hammer-Fall, HIPERTOUCH® Springs".
 
Really? Hiperfire states that you get "higher hammer energy than stock" ONLY with the "plain" toggle springs.
However, as an accessory, they do offer "Heavy, Hammer-Fall, HIPERTOUCH® Springs".

Dunno, what I do know is that it decimates the rim and that I have not had a light strike in ages and I do use the lightest 2lb 'plain' toggle springs.
I love the trigger. :D
 
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The gray toggle springs are the ones we use and they are indeed heavy strike and light trigger pull. Mine measures out to under 2.0 lbs on average using both a digital and mechanical scale, measured during live fire and bench (dry). And excellent features regarding pre-travel, reset, smoothness. These are flat triggers. They also offer curved in other model names. Here's my original write-up:

Got the 24C installed and test fired today. Installation was straight - forward but had a little trouble with the toggle springs assembly. Fixin' to cuss. One of those deals I later determined where you do better when less focused / trying too hard.

In the vise I had a big issue dry firing. I would hold and "walk" the hammer forward when pressing the trigger. Sometimes it would fire and other times it wouldn't.

When it wouldn't it had what felt like a solid 1/8" of pre-travel. When it fired it had none. I finally noticed when it wouldn't fire it was due to it not resetting as I pulled the hammer back.

When it functioned properly, I would cock the hammer and it had the slightest reset sound approx 1/2 second or so after cocking. I used the KNS 15-22 pins and thought perhaps they were too tight. Loosened them and it made no difference.

Looking at it all, I thought the polymer walls thickness might be causing a rub of springs, pins, whatever. The assembly came drowned in oil which I had wiped down well. I thought it was preservative due to its stickiness. Called Hiperfire and they told me it was oil. Oiled up what I could with it being fully installed. I manually worked the hammer back and forth a zillion times.

The problem still happened but not nearly as often. Perhaps 1 out of 10 as compared to 1 out of 3 or 4. I said screw it and took it out back.

Fired 25 rounds slowly with no issues. Fired an additional 25 as quickly as I could. No problems.

Conclusion:
I feel the assembly as a whole when using the lightest pull weight toggle springs is very sensitive to external pressures such as holding the hammer, cocking it manually, etc. Goodness, those lightest pull weight springs sure make the hammer difficult to pull back. Not really difficult but a truck load of more pulling power is required to pull the hammer back. When the trigger is pulled, the hammer flies. I don't anticipate any light strikes.

The lightest pull weight is advertised at 2.5lbs. Before installation I tested the factory trigger which has been excellent. I used only my digital pull gauge and did 6 pulls. Average was 4lbs 6oz. Excellent compared to several I've read about.

Did same with 24C. It was jumping all over the place. From just a spit under 2lbs. to 3lbs.

During my live fire, I stopped at 15 rounds, put the rifle in my lead sled and averaged 1lb 6oz on 5 rounds. Brought out my old style gauge and it showed 1 1/2lbs to just a hair more than that. Definitely light but didn't feel dangerously so. I noticed zero take up and you would have to know the trigger resets because I couldn't detect it. Perhaps if you were live firing for the sole purpose of determining reset you might feel / hear it.

Did not install the optional shoe.

Assembly appears to be very well made. Customer support was quick to answer the phone and answer my question. Not knowing how easy it might be to contract or distort the polymer receiver with the anti-roll pins, I might consider the Colt 901 "normal" pins which are longer so that they don't sit recessed as the factory pins do. Can't believe S&W used the regular length pins on these polymer receivers.

Based on my short term experience I'd recommend the 24C.
 
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No. Why do you ask?
Because the OP asked about a trigger "for STEEL CHALLENGE".

I guess it helps to read more than the last post in a thread...

Your "review" describes a trigger that's not reliable enough to use for Steel Challenge. Not surprising considering the 7 page "Trouble Shooting Guide" on their site that on the last page says: "Contact HIPERFIRE if other problems exhibit and no remedy can be found."

Steel Challenge is very competitive. An unreliable trigger is HUGELY frustrating and will ruin your match. Whatever trigger you choose it has to be reliable.

"Sometimes it would fire and other times it wouldn't." and "The problem still happened but not nearly as often." won't make the grade. Steel Challenge isn't plinking off a bench....
 
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Because the OP asked about a trigger "for STEEL CHALLENGE".

I guess it helps to read more than the last post in a thread...

Your "review" describes a trigger that's not reliable enough to use for Steel Challenge. Not surprising considering the 7 page "Trouble Shooting Guide" on their site that on the last page says: "Contact HIPERFIRE if other problems exhibit and no remedy can be found."

Steel Challenge is very competitive. An unreliable trigger is HUGELY frustrating and will ruin your match. Whatever trigger you choose it has to be reliable.

"Sometimes it would fire and other times it wouldn't." and "The problem still happened but not nearly as often." won't make the grade. Steel Challenge isn't plinking off a bench....

As usual there you go taking things out of context and assuming things not in fact. No failures, no malfunctions, etc during live-fire. 100% reliable; unlike your spin to make a point which doesn't exist.
 
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The Hiperfire seems to get some good reviews. Approximately the same price range as the Geissele SD-3G. I guess I always say to each his own path. What is right for one might not be right for the next guy. I had a Geissele SSA in my Sig MPX. Then Geissele came out with a warning saying not to use their triggers in the MPX. I swapped it into the .22 and love it.For my purposes, which with the M&P 15-22 mostly involves plinking suppressed indoors, the factory trigger was sufficient. But the Geissele is a major upgrade. I don’t shoot steel challenge. I understand that was the question. Missed it. For general purposes, I’d say the SSA is a good choice. Lots of SPECOPS warriors use the same basic trigger on the two-way range. Good enough for me.
 
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