Does your Shield go back into Battery After Press check ?

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I realize there are a couple of other threads on this issue, but I'm not interested in debating whether it's necessary or not. I'm most interested in "IF" there are individuals out there that have a Shield 9mm that when they do a press check, it goes back into battery automatically. Did it do this out of the box, or did you have to send it in ?

For starters... mine does NOT go back into battery after a press check.
 
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Although I do not perform Press Checks on my guns to verify a round is in the chamber, I do test them to see IF they are vulnerable to not returning to battery on their own if the slide is accidentally pressed back some.

To answer your question: My Shield does not return to battery on its own.
 
I dont do press checks but I just tried it on my Shield 40 and it always goes back to battery. It did not matter if I just slightly pulled it back or not. I tried stopping a several different spots and it always went back. I do notice that my spring is really tight and the slide pulls with alot of tension. I tried my Glock and xd with the same results
 
I don't press check either, I know there is one in the pipe. No, mine will not return to battery if I pull the slide back just a little with a round in the chamber, magazine in or out. I have never had it inadvertently do this while holstering or anything else. Not a issue for me.
 
I did not immediately load up my Shield and start carrying it when I got it, so I never needed to do a press check. It was tight when it was new, and I do suspect that it would not have fallen back into battery. Now, with 250 rounds through it, I do a press check on it every morning, and no problems at all. I know, I could just look in the hole, but it's habit.
 
Vision Remodeling said:
I don't press check either, I know there is one in the pipe. No, mine will not return to battery if I pull the slide back just a little with a round in the chamber, magazine in or out. I have never had it inadvertently do this while holstering or anything else. Not a issue for me.
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Same here... Not an issue as I don't do press checks and mine has never inadvertently moved out of battery...
But to answer the question... No, mine does not return to battery if I do a press check. Mine actually takes quite a bit of force to move it out of battery though, so I'm not worried about it getting bumped out of battery.
 
Just a little clarification here: you can't really do a "press check" on an M&P.

Because the gun has a Full Length Guide Rod(FLGR), the slide cannot easily be pressed back by pushing on the front of the slide. What we're really talking about here is a chamber check. To do this, the slide is grabbed from underneath with the fingers and thumb and slid back about 1/4" to 1/2". Just enough to see brass or not. The press check is done for the same reason, but is done by putting a finger on the guide rod cap and pressing the slide back. This can be hazardous because it puts your finger very close to the muzzle.

I always do a chamber check before I holster and before I unload. Yes, there is a chamber indicator, but, like others, I'm used to doing the chamber check. If done properly the slide will not stay back. The right way to do it includes closing the slide forcefully and thus eliminating the chance of not going fully into battery.
 
Please forvive me, I don't mean to change the subject. I don't have a shield, nor have I ever handled one, but don't they have a loaded chamber indicator?
 
Like others, I don't do press checks since there is a loaded chamber indicator (peep hole). I just now tried it by pulling the slide back less than 1/4" to see if the slide would go back into battery on it's own and it did not. I do not consider this a problem as the gun never goes out of battery in any other way.
 
Rastoff said:
Just a little clarification here: you can't really do a "press check" on an M&P.

Because the gun has a Full Length Guide Rod(FLGR), the slide cannot easily be pressed back by pushing on the front of the slide. What we're really talking about here is a chamber check. To do this, the slide is grabbed from underneath with the fingers and thumb and slid back about 1/4" to 1/2". Just enough to see brass or not. The press check is done for the same reason, but is done by putting a finger on the guide rod cap and pressing the slide back. This can be hazardous because it puts your finger very close to the muzzle.

I always do a chamber check before I holster and before I unload. Yes, there is a chamber indicator, but, like others, I'm used to doing the chamber check. If done properly the slide will not stay back. The right way to do it includes closing the slide forcefully and thus eliminating the chance of not going fully into battery.
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Correct. A "chamber check" is actually what I am doing.
 
Why do people worry about things that make no difference on the way the weapon performs.

My Shield .40 is always chambered, no matter when i pick it up. There is no need to "half slide" it, since u can easily see its loaded from the "top". If u are ever in a self defense situation and u have to "half slide" your weapon or even slide your weapon. You may as well go ahead and use that bullet on yourself.

I bought my Shields for what they were designed for "conceal carry weapon". So in this case, as i said earlier. Mine is ALWAYS loaded.
 
It isn't inconceivable that you would pull your weapon to defend yourself and the bad guy would grab at it, push it away, or in some way struggle with you.

If the slide is pushed back a bit during this struggle your gun will not fire. Precious time will be lost while you get it to fire.

I have a problem saying, "Yeah if I bump my gun it won't work, but I NEVER bump my gun, and could NEVER bump my gun, so I completely trust my life to this gun as long as I don't bump it".

None of my carry guns hang out of battery. Heck even my M&P22 doesn't hang out of battery.

I can't tell you my Shield doesn't hang out of battery. At least not yet. But it will get fixed or it will go down the road. I don't need to trust my life to a gun that may or may not work. I have plenty that do work.
 
highaltitude said:
Correct. A "chamber check" is actually what I am doing.
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I must apologize for my post. Sometimes I type without engaging my brain. I didn't mean to come off with a condescending attitude, but it seems that I did. I'm sorry for that. I tend to be a stickler for terms and go overboard. Just like "clip" we all knew what you meant.


Smitty357 said:
If u are ever in a self defense situation and u have to "half slide" your weapon or even slide your weapon. You may as well go ahead and use that bullet on yourself.
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You are right about this. Then again, if you're doing the chamber check properly, you won't need to do it during a fight. However, I have personally seen several shooters insert a mag, rack the slide and start to shoot only to get a click instead of a bang. For whatever reason a round was not chambered. A chamber check would have prevented those clicks.



Here's an interesting thought and I wonder if anyone else has done this. I noticed this problem when I first got my M&P 45. But, what exactly does it mean to be in battery?

My 45 slide moves back about 3/16" before the barrel starts to drop away from the slide. So, I did a test. The distance where my slide "stuck" was not enough to keep the gun from firing. Obviously this can only be tested with an empty chamber or at the range, but test it I did and found my gun will still shoot as long as the barrel/chamber is fully engaged with the slide.

My explanation may not be good enough without pictures. I may make some later today.
 
Rastoff said:
You are right about this. Then again, if you're doing the chamber check properly, you won't need to do it during a fight. However, I have personally seen several shooters insert a mag, rack the slide and start to shoot only to get a click instead of a bang. For whatever reason a round was not chambered. A chamber check would have prevented those clicks.
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This is why i express, i know for a fact my Shield has a round in the chamber at any given moment. It is my EDC, so there is no use in me wondering if its loaded or not, lol.

If i pull the trigger on mine, there is a 99.9% chance its going BANG. I hope i never have to use it in a self defense situation. But if that situation may ever arise, once again I can promise it will go bang. I dont have to look at the peep hole or check the slide. If it doesnt go bang, thats only because Hornady made a stupid self defense round, lol
 
Rastoff said:
Here's an interesting thought and I wonder if anyone else has done this. I noticed this problem when I first got my M&P 45. But, what exactly does it mean to be in battery?

My 45 slide moves back about 3/16" before the barrel starts to drop away from the slide. So, I did a test. The distance where my slide "stuck" was not enough to keep the gun from firing. Obviously this can only be tested with an empty chamber or at the range, but test it I did and found my gun will still shoot as long as the barrel/chamber is fully engaged with the slide.
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No, my Shield doesn't go bang. When it is out of battery just a fraction of an inch, it doesn't go bang. And that's the problem, a slight bump will knock it out of battery and the gun won't fire.

With a dozen other concealable pistols in my safe just waiting for a ride on my hip I am not going to take the one that may decide not to fire when I really need it.

My 3913 is by my side. Bump it and it goes right back to the ready to fire position like any dependable gun should.
 
Lost Lake said:
No, my Shield doesn't go bang. When it is out of battery just a fraction of an inch, it doesn't go bang. And that's the problem, a slight bump will knock it out of battery and the gun won't fire.

With a dozen other concealable pistols in my safe just waiting for a ride on my hip I am not going to take the one that may decide not to fire when I really need it.

My 3913 is by my side. Bump it and it goes right back to the ready to fire position like any dependable gun should.
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How do u bump it out of battery? Are u dropping it from a 2 story building? I'm gonna have to test this bumping theory.
 
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I don't have a Shield so, I'm taking Lost Lake at his word.

Smitty357,
There are any number of ways to bump it out of battery. A 1911 only needs to be moved 1/32" to prevent it from firing. Apparently the Shield is the same.

Suppose you're close to your opponent. If you place the gun right up against him you run the risk of being out of battery. You could snag the gun on a piece of clothing as you present. You could bump it on a support(like a door frame) if you're using one. There are many ways to bump the slide.
 
So are u guys saying u accidentally bump it and the mag drop.....Or do u somehow accidentally pull the slide back a bit and u say its out of battery.
 
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