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Old 08-17-2013, 12:35 PM
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Does anyone here think that the Shield only vaguely resembles an M&P?

This guy's video talks about how the thumb safety is a flaw because it flips on too easily. I've read here that a lot of people think that it is too tight, and doesn't flip easily enough.

But at :20-:30 seconds he says something that made me go, "Say whaaa?"

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He puts it in a "fanny pack." He says he checked it "a few days later." This video was painful to watch as are most of these amateurishly done gun reviews by some no-name self-declared "expert" who wants his 15 minutes of fame and who thinks he can get it with his self-made videos.
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Another video ... oh my ...

The first 15 second lead seems to give some insight into the probable nature of what's to follow.

Making a "review" of a firearm made by one company, while wearing a logo-marked shirt for another company (guessing he doesn't actually work for HK? ). Really?

Wearing one of those HUGE "tactical" bracelets. Really?

That sort of ball cap is appropriate for wearing during a professional presentation (or an attempt at one) ... IF your presentation is sports-related.

Dialogue. Really?

Fanny pack?

Complete disinterest to listen further.
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First I've heard of the safety being flipped on too easy. The safety being tight & small is the only reason I tolerate the safety.
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I've watched 2-3 of his videos. Some of his lines are funny, but many were unnecessarily vulgar.

Using his "reviews" for real decisions would not be prudent.
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The Yankee marshal is a toolbox...........doesn't know what the bleep he's talking about, ever.
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I like this person's comment,
And I don't know why you think it doesn't look like an M&P... it looks exactly like an M&P. Not vaguely, not just a little bit, but exactly. It even has M&P stamped on the slide. The only difference is, it's thinner, and doesn't have a removable backstrap.

The real kicker is that people are thanking this guy for his advice. Too many space cadets out there with internet experience that can't think for themselves. If you want real advice go talk to your father, grandpa, or buddy that actually fought in a war.

And about the endless safety debates. It is not a big deal, no really its not. I'd like to meet the person that came up with the idea that safeties are evil creatures that will get you killed. I really have yet to read any article where a person was killed because of a safety. And if one does exist it's because the person failed to train properly. I'd imagine there are more accidental discharges by firearms without a manual safety. Buy a Glock if you hate manual safeties so much.
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Negative reviews, from guys wearing shirts or hats of manufacturers they favor, should be dismissed.
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At the beginning of the video he said he wasn't impressed with this gun. Near the end he says he loves it. How many times does he have to repeat himself. Did you guys read the comments, people thanking him for his insight.

When I watch videos about products I am thinking about buying, I watch them for the product reviews but I also watch the people giving them and see for myself if I can trust thier opinion. When the guy contradicts himself that is a big red flag for me. Also the lead into his video was dumb. And I don't think I have to say this but I will FANNY PACK? right I know.

Long and short before I bought my first S&W I joined this forum and read up on the models I was interested in. A wealth of knowledge here and out there if you know where to look. For me this guy just doesn't make the cut.

Not only does it look like an M&P IT IS AN M&P.
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If you want an honest review of the Shield check out Military Arms Channel. I've never been much of a fan of YM videos, he's kind of all over the place. MAC always presents everything in a clear and concise manner. Or check out Hickok 45's shooting demos of the Shield.
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And I don't know why you think it doesn't look like an M&P... it looks exactly like an M&P. Not vaguely, not just a little bit, but exactly. It even has M&P stamped on the slide. The only difference is, it's thinner, and doesn't have a removable backstrap.
That was me (did you do that intentionally? Dawww )
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Gee my 40 Shield sure looks like my other 2 M&P 40's, but what do I know, I have never made a Youtube video before. This is the same Bozo at the gun counter at Wally World that knows it all.
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He is kind of a tool but he does also have an m&p9c... I've unsubscribed from his channel a few times...
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Fanny pack!!! that say's enough right their. Real men carry a wallet and a gun on their hip tucked inside their waistband or on their belt.

Seriously a fanny pack.
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Not even watching the video. Your comments say enough
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If I had a problem with the holster I would look into a new holster rather than a new gun. Maybe modify the old one so it won't disengage the safety.

If he doesn't want the safety, don't put the safety on in the first place and treat the gun like it could go off if you touch the trigger, which is what should be expected in the first place.

BTW if the safety was harder to disengage people would complain about that.
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If you don't like the Shield don't buy one.

Glock Talk here we go again...
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Does anyone here think that the Shield only vaguely resembles an M&P?

This guy's video talks about how the thumb safety is a flaw because it flips on too easily. I've read here that a lot of people think that it is too tight, and doesn't flip easily enough.

But at :20-:30 seconds he says something that made me go, "Say whaaa?"

S&W Shield's Deadly Flaw - YouTube
I watched Yankee Doodles video and I came away more convinced to continue training to sweep safety as I present my Shield.

For the record I use a man purse (fanny pack) when I peddle bike but I am also confident enough to wear a pink tie to work.

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Some of his stuff is hilarious.

Why does the shield come with a thumb safety anyway?

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15 Months carrying and not once have I found the safety in a position other than what I left it in.
I didn't buy mine for looks, I bought it for its performance.
I could care less if the Shield looks like (or doesn't look like) other shields.
I couldn't make it all the way through the stupid video and gave it a Thumbs Down rating.
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...For the record I use a man purse (fanny pack) when I peddle bike but I am also confident enough to wear a pink tie to work.
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Come on, Russ. Step it up. Get yourself a pink long-sleeve dress shirt to go along with your tie and THEN you can tell us about self-confidence.

I'm with PinGorilla on the safety. I wish my Springfield XDs .45 had a thumb safety like my Shield.

Youtube "reviews" are just entertainment. The reviewers invariably are more entertaining than anything they have to say.
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I remember this guy from GlockTalk where he is no longer a member. He got flamed on a regular basis over there. His giant billboard of sayings he thinks are funny that only kids in grade school like ,that also block everything he's doing is annoying by itself.

Just don't watch him is my suggestion.
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If he has an issue with safeties in general, why did he buy the gun in the first place?

Maybe he should follow his own advice and carry in condition Tactical Butterscotch.
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The Yankee Marshal is a bit of a clown. I'll just stick to watching Hickok45.
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Uhhhh...as far as I know I've been a "real man" for a great many years. Carry a wallet. Always pack at least two knives. Still wear a watch. And for the last fifteen years or so I've pocket-carried a snubby every day. A 640 for the last thirteen.

Don't wear a pink tie, because I don't wear any ties except to funerals anymore. Had a couple of pink shirts over the years. Made some other mistakes, too, but nothing hopelessly unmanly.

Just saying...

The guy in the video, quite apart from the fanny pack angle, is definitely ten pounds of meadow muffins in a five-pound bag.
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Come on, Russ. Step it up. Get yourself a pink long-sleeve dress shirt to go along with your tie and THEN you can tell us about self-confidence.

I'm with PinGorilla on the safety. I wish my Springfield XDs .45 had a thumb safety like my Shield.

Youtube "reviews" are just entertainment. The reviewers invariably are more entertaining than anything they have to say.
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A pink gun would really test my manhood.

I am already out numbered with a house full of girls. I don't need anymore estrogen in the home.

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