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factory test fired cartridge question
I recently bought a new M&P Shield, and I was curious to see what the test cartridge looked like in the little package you get in any new gun. when I opened it up I noticed that the cartridge said it was +P. now I looked in my owners manual and it specifically says not to use this type of ammunition in any Smith and Wesson firearm. so has anyone had this happen to them. it could be the manufacturer only tested it with that cause its over the rating? I don't know, anyone know the reasoning? or did they screw up? forgot to mention the cartridge had a bulge on the side like it was expanded on one side of the cartridge? could have caused damaged could have not I simply don't know!
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03-24-2014, 08:29 PM
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In reality, you should be contacting S&W. Not that some of the advice here is wrong. But your best bet would be is talking with S&W.
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I was curious whats the shell casing for ? I believe it has something to do with ballistics.. but I thought that had to do with the Bullet it self and the barrel.. can someone enlighten me
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I was curious whats the shell casing for ? I believe it has something to do with ballistics.. but I thought that had to do with the Bullet it self and the barrel.. can someone enlighten me
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It proves that the pistol actually worked. (at least once) 
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03-24-2014, 08:55 PM
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It was required in NY/NJ on handguns, so that it could be used to solve crimes!! Lucky for NY/NJ they have NO crime any more. Everyone lives in peace and harmony, all due to those silly little casings. Forget the money it cost to do!!! Be Safe,
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03-24-2014, 10:03 PM
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It was required in NY/NJ on handguns, so that it could be used to solve crimes!! Lucky for NY/NJ they have NO crime any more. Everyone leaves in peace and harmony, all due to those silly little casings. Forget the money it cost to do!!! Be Safe,
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MD & NY, not NJ
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03-26-2014, 08:29 AM
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It was required in NY/NJ on handguns, so that it could be used to solve crimes!! Lucky for NY/NJ they have NO crime any more. Everyone lives in peace and harmony, all due to those silly little casings. Forget the money it cost to do!!! Be Safe,
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New York required it so that the spent casing could be collected and added into a state database. The gun's information and the casing were filed away to patiently wait for it's day in court.  This happened with every new gun sold in NY State.
After a little over a decade and TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, their system did not help to solve one single crime.
The system reportedly had a couple of "hits", but they turned out to be nothing.
NY's so called "CoBIS" only proved what we have all been saying all along - legal gun owners are not the problem. 
They finally smarted up and scrapped it a couple years ago.
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03-26-2014, 08:46 AM
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we still get those cases in the commie state of mass. only good thing about it is when your buying a new gun you know how old it is
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03-26-2014, 08:56 AM
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we still get those cases in the commie state of mass. only good thing about it is when your buying a new gun you know how old it is
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We still get them in NY.
"They" just aren't collecting them any more.
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03-26-2014, 09:48 AM
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+P is OK to fire from your gun. What the owner's manual is stating is that use of it MAY result in increased wear or the need for more frequent service. Do not use +P+.
S&W uses many different brands of ammo for the test fire program, including, as you have seen, some +P rated.
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After a little over a decade and TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, their system did not help to solve one single crime.
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Is this why they adopted the SAFE act? Because they knew the previous stupidity wasn't working? So, they needed fresh stupidity to spend millions more on?
On a more serious note, I don't think having a spent casing is such a bad idea. The problem is how much it costs to collect, catalog and maintain such a store. It would be much more cost effective to just test fire a gun suspected in being used in a crime.
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Is this why they adopted the SAFE act? Because they knew the previous stupidity wasn't working? So, they needed fresh stupidity to spend millions more on?
On a more serious note, I don't think having a spent casing is such a bad idea. The problem is how much it costs to collect, catalog and maintain such a store. It would be much more cost effective to just test fire a gun suspected in being used in a crime.
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Government : Cost effective ? Mutually exclusive terms.
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