M&P shield owners, check it out

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just released by Mag Guts. New follower, base plate and double spring system allows for an extra round in your factory mags. i have a set on both a flush and extended mag and am doing testing before i move to my carry mags. got a couple of mags thru each with no issues. locks back on empty.

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Smith & Wesson Shield | MagGuts
 
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This system's been discussed on one of the other S&W Forums. One of the concerns was the 'stability' of the metal follower (like on some 1911 mags), triggering the slide lock reliably.

Good to hear that it's working as advertised (so far). Does it make the mags any easier to get that last round in?

I've been pondering giving them a try on a couple of my mags.
 
I'll wait for more guinea pig input before trying that on my carry piece but I'm glad to see some aftermarket options starting up for the shield, thanks for the heads up :)
 
Considering that the capacity of the Shield with either the 7 or 8 round mag (and 1 in the chamber) is sufficient for any likelly self-defense needs, I don't feel the need to run anything but stock magazines. Really not worth the risk.

The name "Mag Guts" doesn't give my the warm fuzzies.

If you want more rounds, buy a bigger gun.

Why some people insist on re-inventing the wheel escapes me.

Besides...these magazine modifications have a habit of self-destructing - by blowing all the ammo out through the bottom...:rolleyes:
 
Intrigued, but not volunteering to be a beta tester. Some else please report on how these work, since the price is almost that of another whole mag.
 
Considering that the capacity of the Shield with either the 7 or 8 round mag (and 1 in the chamber) is sufficient for any likelly self-defense needs...

The problem is that some Shield owners (including me) have complained about not being able to get 7 rounds loaded into the 7 round Shield magazine. Has nothing to do with breaking in the mag and everything to do with the mag spring being too long. I have decided to cut down the mag spring by one "spring loop" to see if that corrects the problem.
 
Considering that they make 'internals' for the P3AT, DB380 and LCP, I do kinda wonder why the Shield is the first 9mm they've tackled. Makes me wonder why they didn't tackle the PF-9, DB9, or LC9 first.

I ordered a couple to try out with two of my Spare mags. If they don't go 'Sproing' at the range and prove reliable, I'll consider them for EDC.
 
FWIW, I e-mailed them about the Shield .40, and just got a reply that they had "a few other irons in the fire right now", but said that they do plan on taking a look at it. They also added that they would put me a list of interested customers to contact when available. Don't know if I'd ever try em, I was just kinda curious.
 
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The problem is that some Shield owners (including me) have complained about not being able to get 7 rounds loaded into the 7 round Shield magazine. Has nothing to do with breaking in the mag and everything to do with the mag spring being too long. I have decided to cut down the mag spring by one "spring loop" to see if that corrects the problem.

I never had a problem getting 7 rounds into my 7 round magazine. It was tough, but I was able to do it. I did go buy an Uplula and now I don't even think about it.
 
The problem is that some Shield owners (including me) have complained about not being able to get 7 rounds loaded into the 7 round Shield magazine. Has nothing to do with breaking in the mag and everything to do with the mag spring being too long. I have decided to cut down the mag spring by one "spring loop" to see if that corrects the problem.

Did it work ?
 
I never had a problem getting 7 rounds into my 7 round magazine. It was tough, but I was able to do it. I did go buy an Uplula and now I don't even think about it.
Same here, I've never had a problem getting 7 into my 7 magazine but I use an Uplula also. I prefer the feel of the 8 round mags with the grip extention so I bought 2 more of them off eBay and hardly use the 7 any more.
 
The problem is that some Shield owners (including me) have complained about not being able to get 7 rounds loaded into the 7 round Shield magazine. Has nothing to do with breaking in the mag and everything to do with the mag spring being too long. I have decided to cut down the mag spring by one "spring loop" to see if that corrects the problem.

Take it from someone who spent 25 years in the office machine industry. Cutting down springs is a bad idea. They are engineered to do a certain job and you can't improve on it with a pair of cutters. Invest in a good mag loader.
 
Okay... I went ahead and ordered a couple, to test in my spare range mags, before trusting them to carry status. they arrived today, so I have not had a chance to give them a workout at the range, I can give you some first impressions. My main reason for getting them was not actually to squeek an extra 8th round into the 7 round mag (or 9th round into the 8 round mag). The reason was to make loading the last round into the mag (without needing to use an UpLULA ;)) and loading the (topped off) mag itself into the pistol without litrally Slamming it home. MagGuts does seem to do this.

For simplicity, the only mag I'm referring to here is the FLUSH (7 round) mag. Also, rather than constantly refering to 'the 7th round' vs 'the 8th round', I simply write 'Last Round'.

The Follower fits nicely and is very stabile. It does not 'rock' back & forth like some metal followers I've seen.
One big difference, which possibly makes it easier to get the last round (now, the 8th round) loaded, is that the 'Legs' of the follower is shorter than the legs of the factory follower. With the factory follower, after the last round is loaded, there is only (approx) 1/16th" extra 'push'. With the MagGuts internals, after the last round is loaded, there's at least twice the room (1/8th"?) in extra push. This not only makes it easier to get the last round loaded into the mag, but also makes it MUCH easier to load the (topped off) mag into the pistol when the slide is closed. All that's needed to load a full mag now, is a moderate Push, rather than a hard slam.

When hand cycling Snap-Caps, all rounds seem to feed and chamber without binding and the follower has been successfully engaging the Slide Stop after ejecting the last round.

If there's interest, I'll post follow-ups after putting several Hundred rounds down range. As mentioned above, I'm not going to blindl trust them as a carry mag... I want to test the new internals before considering using them for SD.
 
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